From: | Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj> |
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To: | Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz> |
Cc: | Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>, Albe Laurenz <laurenz(dot)albe(at)wien(dot)gv(dot)at>, "Peter Geoghegan *EXTERN*" <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Erik Rijkers <er(at)xs4all(dot)nl>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-committers <pgsql-committers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "pgsql-committers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-committers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] pgsql: Use gender-neutral language in documentation |
Date: | 2015-09-22 10:17:54 |
Message-ID: | CAEzk6feEo6ROR9Nq31Z-oSQPX4Sh_uy_wkcT3vdd7vh5Sm1owQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On 22 September 2015 at 10:52, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz>
wrote:
> On 22/09/15 21:33, Geoff Winkless wrote:
>
>>
>> Without wanting to get into a grammar war, I'm not so sure I agree that
>> it "condones" it. Dictionaries reflect the current state of usage, they
>> don't act as arbiters of correctness. The abuse of "literally" as an
>> emphasiser (which usage is now listed in the OED) is a prime example.
>>
>> I would prefer "his or her" over "their". Perhaps our American cousins
>> might disagree though.
>>
>> I prefer "their" rather than "his or her", it is less clumsy & there is
> no point in specifying gender unless it is relevant!
>
I agree in that I prefer "their" in informal speech; however in a formal
document I would find it sloppy. I don't think "his or her" is inherently
clumsy; m
aybe I'm just showing my age.
Besides, some people are neither, or their biological gender is ambiguous -
> so a few people fit into neither the male nor the female category
> (depending on precise definitions, about 0.5%)!
>
My understanding is that most intersex (and certainly all trans) people
would identify with one or the other, and even those who don't select
exclusively identify with a mix of both (and would therefore still be
covered by "his or her", no?) although I don't pretend to be an expert.
Perhaps it would be easier to avoid the controversy by actually rewording
into the plural, where possible?
So
"any user can make such a change for his session."
becomes
"Users can make such a change for their individual sessions"
or similar?
Geoff
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