Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification

On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 10:45, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
wrote:

> Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 16:35, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca> a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi Guillaume,
>>
>> That's interesting - the PostgreSQL training/testing that Dalibo is
>> offering is in French?
>>
>>
> Yes, that's only available in french.
>
>
>> I wonder if we could work out an agreement with Dalibo and build on the
>> training that you have already developed, rather than re-inventing the
>> wheel, so to speak. That way we're kind of building the unified or
>> standardized English and French training/testing at the same time
>> ('unified' or 'standardized' sounds better to me than 'community
>> developed').
>>
>>
> I don't think we are discussing training. This could be an option for
companies to offer training for compensation.
I thought we were only discussing certification. In my mind that is just
the testing.

Dave

> I don't know, but it could be interesting. I'm not sure we did the work to
> update it to v15, but it sure covers v14. Anyway, I'm not the one who could
> decide such things :)
>
>
>> Just some thoughts :)
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Katie
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
>> *Sent:* 02 June 2023 10:06
>> *To:* Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca>
>> *Cc:* Valeria Kaplan <kaplan(dot)valeria(at)gmail(dot)com>; Adrian Klaver <
>> adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>; Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>;
>> PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>> *Subject:* Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved
>> certification
>>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 15:13, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Not sure about this idea, but possibly a better one than having a single
>> company (ex. Red Hat and EDB come to mind) run the show for
>> certifications/competency rating. I like it from this respect.
>>
>>
>> There are other companies doing PostgreSQL certification. SRA in Japan,
>> and Dalibo in France (disclaimer: I work for Dalibo) offer certification
>> exams for their customers.
>>
>> I will love the idea if you are able to, somehow, offer the
>> training/testing in languages other than English. PostgreSQL is an
>> international open source project and English-only training/testing is not
>> very appropriate. This gives a huge advantage to the community's native
>> English speakers (the goal here is to produce something 'unbiased' I
>> thought).
>>
>> Perhaps develop it in English, with input from those from non-English
>> speaking countries on your working group, and then have it translated into
>> multiple languages (also: be careful how you prioritize these, but if you
>> have, say, a member from India on your working group, perhaps Hindi becomes
>> one of the first).
>>
>>
>> Multiple languages would be a must, I totally agree. Dalibo did its own
>> certification because the community didn't seem to be able to work on a
>> unified one, despite many tries. I'd love to see a unified Postgres
>> certification, and we (Dalibo) would gladly work on this project, but I
>> also am kinda skeptical of the outcome.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume.
>>
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>
> --
> Guillaume.
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