Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification

Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 16:54, Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)postgres(dot)rocks> a
écrit :

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> On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 10:45, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
> wrote:
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>> Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 16:35, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca> a
>> écrit :
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>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>
>>> That's interesting - the PostgreSQL training/testing that Dalibo is
>>> offering is in French?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, that's only available in french.
>>
>>
>>> I wonder if we could work out an agreement with Dalibo and build on the
>>> training that you have already developed, rather than re-inventing the
>>> wheel, so to speak. That way we're kind of building the unified or
>>> standardized English and French training/testing at the same time
>>> ('unified' or 'standardized' sounds better to me than 'community
>>> developed').
>>>
>>>
>> I don't think we are discussing training. This could be an option for
> companies to offer training for compensation.
> I thought we were only discussing certification. In my mind that is just
> the testing.
>
>
You're definitely right. My first message was to say some companies do
testing. I know mine does in french. And I think we're still interested in
participating in a community work on the testing.

Dave
>
>> I don't know, but it could be interesting. I'm not sure we did the work
>> to update it to v15, but it sure covers v14. Anyway, I'm not the one who
>> could decide such things :)
>>
>>
>>> Just some thoughts :)
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Katie
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
>>> *Sent:* 02 June 2023 10:06
>>> *To:* Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca>
>>> *Cc:* Valeria Kaplan <kaplan(dot)valeria(at)gmail(dot)com>; Adrian Klaver <
>>> adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>; Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>;
>>> PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved
>>> certification
>>>
>>> *Attention : courriel externe | external email*
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 15:13, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Not sure about this idea, but possibly a better one than having a single
>>> company (ex. Red Hat and EDB come to mind) run the show for
>>> certifications/competency rating. I like it from this respect.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are other companies doing PostgreSQL certification. SRA in Japan,
>>> and Dalibo in France (disclaimer: I work for Dalibo) offer certification
>>> exams for their customers.
>>>
>>> I will love the idea if you are able to, somehow, offer the
>>> training/testing in languages other than English. PostgreSQL is an
>>> international open source project and English-only training/testing is not
>>> very appropriate. This gives a huge advantage to the community's native
>>> English speakers (the goal here is to produce something 'unbiased' I
>>> thought).
>>>
>>> Perhaps develop it in English, with input from those from non-English
>>> speaking countries on your working group, and then have it translated into
>>> multiple languages (also: be careful how you prioritize these, but if you
>>> have, say, a member from India on your working group, perhaps Hindi becomes
>>> one of the first).
>>>
>>>
>>> Multiple languages would be a must, I totally agree. Dalibo did its own
>>> certification because the community didn't seem to be able to work on a
>>> unified one, despite many tries. I'd love to see a unified Postgres
>>> certification, and we (Dalibo) would gladly work on this project, but I
>>> also am kinda skeptical of the outcome.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Guillaume.
>>>
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>> --
>> Guillaume.
>>
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Guillaume.