Re: PostgreSQL License

From: Ken Tanzer <ken(dot)tanzer(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL License
Date: 2019-09-19 04:43:25
Message-ID: CAD3a31WUdG0bvAnZfH8==i8d2H2DrGaxgXPa2BEsoENJpKHsqQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:35 PM Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On 9/18/19 8:26 PM, Ken Tanzer wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/18/19 6:03 PM, Ken Tanzer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:20 PM Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> Charging for *installing* PostgreSQL is not the same as charging for
>>> PostgreSQL.
>>>
>>> Bottom line: you charge for *services** you provide* not for software
>>> that other people provide.
>>>
>>> That's just really not true. There is nothing that prohibits you from
>> selling Postgresql. I mean, it's not a great business model because you
>> can get it for free, but there's nothing that stops you from doing it.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Adrian Klaver in this thread from about eight hours ago: "You
>> cannot (legitimately) charge the pharmacist for any part PostgresQL."
>>
>>
>>
> Actually that's Rob Sargent you're quoting. Adrian took issue with that
> statement, as do I. While Google isn't finding me anything that says
> "Yes, you can sell Postgresql," here are a few points:
>
>
> - Point to anything in the license wording that says you can't charge
> money to distribute Postgresql. You can't.
>
>
> - Even software licensed under the GPL, which is a considerably more
> restrictive license, can be sold. The free software folks consider the
> right to sell as one of the freedoms associated with free software. [1]
>
>
> - The Postgresql license page says it is "a liberal Open Source
> license, similar to the BSD or MIT licenses." [2] The MIT license itself
> explicitly states that it grants rights to "sell copies of the software."
>
>
> How do you sell what you don't own?
>
>
You can do so because the owners have granted you the right to do so. They
were just good enough to not charge you money for it.

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