Re: Russian translations

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Ivan E. Panchenko <
i(dot)panchenko(at)postgrespro(dot)ru> wrote:

>
>
> 23.08.2016 23:37, Stefan Kaltenbrunner пишет:
>
> On 08/23/2016 10:12 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us
>>> <mailto:bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:53:58AM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> > Presently, we want to restrict the commercial use of the
>>> Russian
>>> > translation. It means that the text is not BSD-licensed, and
>>> cannot be
>>> > freely included in any commercial products. Magnus, do you
>>> consider this
>>> > acceptable in the sense of your comments?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I don't have a problem with such restrictions, but I think it
>>> would be good to
>>> > clarify what it exactly means.
>>> >
>>> > For example, can a russian speaker use the documentation if he's
>>> giving
>>> > postgresql training? Does it make a difference if he prints the
>>> documentation
>>> > and uses it vs uses it online?
>>>
>>> Uh, I think we need to step back here. First, anyone can add a more
>>> restrictive copyright to our docs, even in English, as long as they
>>> retain our copyright notice.
>>>
>>> Second, the website has been updated as requested.
>>>
>>> However, I don't know what a "commercial purposes" restriction
>>> means.
>>> It is vague for software use, and even vaguer for documentation.
>>>
>>> I understand Postgres Pro had to invest resources to do the
>>> translation,
>>> and understand their desire to restrict access. However, I think we
>>> need to be clear on exactly what those restrictions are if we are
>>> going
>>> to keep a link from our website.
>>>
>>>
>>> We are not. We are already linking, that part is taken care of. As a
>>> general rule I think it'd be good if these things are clarified for
>>> visitors there though, but that's independent of us linking to it.
>>>
>> fwiw - as the one who actually commited the change, I did consider the
>> fact that the linked to website looked a "tad" too commercial but we
>> link to commercial places all over the place on the website anyway.
>> In general I'm very glad we have russian translation of the docs and the
>> better we can make the linked-to page the happier I'm.
>>
>>
>> And actually, I think the web changes haven't been made. We had an
>>> example that looks great. Or is it that we should update the link to
>>> point to the new suggested url (adding the postgresql suffix)? I sort of
>>> lost track of that part, but that should be an easy fix if that's going
>>> to be a permanent URL.
>>>
>>
>> yeah that would be very good to know.
>>
> Please look at https://postgrespro.ru/docs/postgresql . This is the
> correct url for the russian docs translation.
> We've made it much less commercial, and I hope now it satisties all the
> community requirements.
>
>
Hi!

Just to be clear -- should I change the link that's on www.postgresql.org
to point to this new URL? Or is it a temporary one just used to show what
it could look like?

--
Magnus Hagander
Me: http://www.hagander.net/
Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/