Re: No SPF record for postgresql.org?

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>
Cc: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: No SPF record for postgresql.org?
Date: 2016-10-16 19:39:09
Message-ID: CABUevEwH+1B3GXFeDTAdjzF5noPt9SDnyZ5jkOT1vpHeUcn=zA@mail.gmail.com
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On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> wrote:
> > On 16 Oct 2016, at 19:28, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've been tinkering with setting up SPF-based filtering on my mail
> >> server, and I was surprised to find out that most of the traffic
> >> it would want to throw away is Postgres mailing list messages.
> >
> > As an extra data point, the lack of SPF and DKIM for postgresql.org
> > is a bit of a pain when using @postgresql.org email address too. :(
>
> I understand how SPF affects @postgresql.org addresses but I was under
> the impression that it was no help for mailing list traffic since it's
> being relayed so the ip address isn't going to match the records for
> the sending domain anyways. For relayed traffic you need the verify
> the DKIM signature (which is why it's important that the list not
> modify the content).
>

Yes, these are very different problems. DKIM is definitely causing issues
with the lists at this point, and we're working on a solution for that.

SPF is a different beast. We have SPF set up for most of our
non-postgresql.org domains, but we've been hesitant to touch the actual
postgresql.org domain until we have separate out the list namespaces. It
*should* be safe, but we just haven't wanted to touch it until we were
certain. At least that's my recollection of it, Stefan might have more
details.

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Magnus Hagander
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