Re: (Repeat.) Please give pgAdmin 4 its own GUI. The constant password inputs are driving me insane...

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: richard coleman <rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>, tutiluren(at)tutanota(dot)com, Pgadmin Support <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: (Repeat.) Please give pgAdmin 4 its own GUI. The constant password inputs are driving me insane...
Date: 2019-07-29 12:14:43
Message-ID: CA+OCxozVHtGZFqc6aWeSVqA7hH=FdZv7STpuFNhUb05oj+6n3w@mail.gmail.com
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Hi

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:58 PM richard coleman <
rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Thanks for helping to clear that up, I am sorry I misunderstood Khushboo's
> response. As for running in *desktop mode*, I didn't think that was
> possible for quite some time. I sure haven't been able to find out how to
> pull that off. If you could explain, I would imagine I am not the only one
> who would like that opportunity.
>

You are running in desktop mode, otherwise you would see the login page
when you first connect (and you wouldn't get the master password prompt).
See https://www.pgadmin.org/docs/pgadmin4/4.11/getting_started.html (and
the relevant child pages on Server and Desktop deployment)

Desktop vs. Server mode is not about the whether you access pgAdmin through
a browser or not, but whether it's configured for running on a single
user's desktop or on a web server that may be accessible to multiple users
(or people who should not be using it at all; e.g. other people on the same
LAN)

>
> rik.
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 AM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:50 PM richard coleman <
>> rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> (sorry about the last missive - continued)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:38 PM richard coleman <
>>> rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Darren,
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:03 PM Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried using more than one browser?
>>>>> that's what I've taken to doing, I have a separate install of Chromium
>>>>> just for pgAdmin4. I've even changed the browser command to
>>>>
>>>> "chromium-browser %URL% " so that it starts with the right browser.
>>>
>>> Although not all browsers are apparently equal. Back on 2019-06-19
>>> 04:10:13 Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
>>> wrote in response to an issue I was having under Chromium;
>>>
>>>> "I would suggest, try a different browser as well as Chromium is not
>>>> the
>>>> supported browser for pgAdmin."
>>>
>>> Which suggests that there is *a supported browser* for pgAdmin4. This
>>> begs the question, if there's only a *single* supported browser, what
>>> exactly is the point of a web app? It's like web sites that only worked
>>> correctly under IE6.
>>>
>>
>> Don't mistake the phrasing there as an implication that there's only a
>> single supported browser. Khushboo's first language is not English.
>>
>> We (the team at EDB, I can't speak for others) test on Chrome, Firefox,
>> Safari, IE and Edge. For anyone using other browsers, the first step for us
>> in diagnosing an issue is going to be to try to reproduce it on one of the
>> browsers we test with. It's not feasible for us to test with everything
>> that is out there.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Developing pgAdmin4 as a *web app*/*web server* thing might make sense
>>> from a development standpoint, but personally I think it introduces way
>>> more problems than it solves.
>>>
>>
>> It certainly does cause some problems that we didn't have before, but
>> it's proven itself to solve a lot more.
>>
>> There's also the fact that running over the web is exactly what many
>> people want these days. I would guesstimate that we probably see something
>> like 50% of users we interact with running in web mode, and 50% in desktop
>> mode. Download-wise, the number of container pulls is far outstripping the
>> number of other downloads these days with Docker hub reporting > 10
>> million. All of those users are running in web mode as that's the only way
>> the container runs, so it's clear that the web app architecture is the
>> right thing for a significant number of users.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>
>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>
>

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