Re: (Repeat.) Please give pgAdmin 4 its own GUI. The constant password inputs are driving me insane...

Dave,

Thanks for helping to clear that up, I am sorry I misunderstood Khushboo's
response. As for running in *desktop mode*, I didn't think that was
possible for quite some time. I sure haven't been able to find out how to
pull that off. If you could explain, I would imagine I am not the only one
who would like that opportunity.

rik.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 AM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:50 PM richard coleman <
> rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> (sorry about the last missive - continued)
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:38 PM richard coleman <
>> rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> Darren,
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:03 PM Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you tried using more than one browser?
>>>> that's what I've taken to doing, I have a separate install of Chromium
>>>> just for pgAdmin4. I've even changed the browser command to
>>>
>>> "chromium-browser %URL% " so that it starts with the right browser.
>>
>> Although not all browsers are apparently equal. Back on 2019-06-19
>> 04:10:13 Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
>> wrote in response to an issue I was having under Chromium;
>>
>>> "I would suggest, try a different browser as well as Chromium is not the
>>> supported browser for pgAdmin."
>>
>> Which suggests that there is *a supported browser* for pgAdmin4. This
>> begs the question, if there's only a *single* supported browser, what
>> exactly is the point of a web app? It's like web sites that only worked
>> correctly under IE6.
>>
>
> Don't mistake the phrasing there as an implication that there's only a
> single supported browser. Khushboo's first language is not English.
>
> We (the team at EDB, I can't speak for others) test on Chrome, Firefox,
> Safari, IE and Edge. For anyone using other browsers, the first step for us
> in diagnosing an issue is going to be to try to reproduce it on one of the
> browsers we test with. It's not feasible for us to test with everything
> that is out there.
>
>
>>
>> Developing pgAdmin4 as a *web app*/*web server* thing might make sense
>> from a development standpoint, but personally I think it introduces way
>> more problems than it solves.
>>
>
> It certainly does cause some problems that we didn't have before, but it's
> proven itself to solve a lot more.
>
> There's also the fact that running over the web is exactly what many
> people want these days. I would guesstimate that we probably see something
> like 50% of users we interact with running in web mode, and 50% in desktop
> mode. Download-wise, the number of container pulls is far outstripping the
> number of other downloads these days with Docker hub reporting > 10
> million. All of those users are running in web mode as that's the only way
> the container runs, so it's clear that the web app architecture is the
> right thing for a significant number of users.
>
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