Re: The naming question (Postgres vs PostgreSQL)

From: "Derek Rodner" <derek(dot)rodner(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: "Brian Hurt" <bhurt(at)janestcapital(dot)com>, "Magnus Hagander" <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, "Robert Bernier" <robert(dot)bernier5(at)sympatico(dot)ca>, <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: The naming question (Postgres vs PostgreSQL)
Date: 2007-08-28 19:00:56
Message-ID: 51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D4230244F0DD@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com
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Brian,

I respectfully disagree. It can't just be the maintainers that make the
decision. In reality, there should be a marketing board for Postgres
and those folks should make the decision in coordination with all
parties involved including those who would have to change doc, those who
would have to change code, etc. I know advocacy was supposed to be the
marketing-like group, but it is too big of a group with too many
opinions that don't matter, mine included.

What we should do (here comes my marketing speak) is talk to those who
matter, USERS. There is an old saying in marketing: Your opinion,
though interesting, is irrelevant. The reality is that we are all on
the "inside" and are too jaded. If PostgreSQL were a company, we would
talk to analysts, customers, prospects, etc. and make a decision based
on that.

Sorry, went a little corporate there...

Derek M. Rodner

Director, Product Strategy

EnterpriseDB Corporation

732.331.1333 office

484.252.1943 cell

www.enterprisedb.com

________________________________

From: Brian Hurt [mailto:bhurt(at)janestcapital(dot)com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:52 PM
To: Magnus Hagander
Cc: Joshua D. Drake; Derek Rodner; Robert Bernier;
pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] The naming question (Postgres vs
PostgreSQL)

Magnus Hagander wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Hello,

Before anyone goes down this path too far it is very important
that I
disclose (as I have on multiple occasions before) that Command
Prompt
owns the name Postgres, Inc (and domains
postgresinc.com/net/org).

Although we do not have intention to immediately change our
name, I will
note that if the project changes its name, it increases the
possibility
that we may do so.


First, thanks for letting us know this before people get too settled on
something :) At least those of us who missed it last time(s)...

Second, this makes my own vote much easier: a clear -1 on the change
(unless cmd would be donating that name+domains to the pg fund or
something, but given that you didn't suggest that I don't expect that to
happen)

I'm -1 as well, although I'm mainly a "those who have to do the work get
to decide if, when, and how the work gets done". I.e. that only the
project maintainers should get to vote.

Brian

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