Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk
Date: 2020-06-24 23:18:10
Message-ID: 20200624231810.GB13627@momjian.us
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:19:00PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2020-06-24 13:12:03 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Well, my point is that merge join works that way, and no one has needed
> > a knob to avoid mergejoin if it is going to spill to disk. If they are
> > adjusting work_mem to prevent spill of merge join, they can do the same
> > for hash agg. We just need to document this in the release notes.
>
> I don't think this is comparable. For starters, the IO indirectly
> triggered by mergejoin actually leads to plenty people just straight out
> disabling it. For lots of workloads there's never a valid reason to use
> a mergejoin (and often the planner will never choose one). Secondly, the
> planner has better information about estimating the memory usage for the
> to-be-sorted data than it has about the size of the transition
> values. And lastly, there's a difference between a long existing cause
> for bad IO behaviour and one that's suddenly kicks in after a major
> version upgrade, to which there's no escape hatch (it's rarely realistic
> to disable hash aggs, in contrast to merge joins).

Well, this sounds like an issue of degree, rather than kind. It sure
sounds like "ignore work_mem for this join type, but not the other".

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