From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
Cc: | David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk |
Date: | 2020-06-24 19:19:00 |
Message-ID: | 20200624191900.t4sbfk236gndwoa3@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2020-06-24 13:12:03 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Well, my point is that merge join works that way, and no one has needed
> a knob to avoid mergejoin if it is going to spill to disk. If they are
> adjusting work_mem to prevent spill of merge join, they can do the same
> for hash agg. We just need to document this in the release notes.
I don't think this is comparable. For starters, the IO indirectly
triggered by mergejoin actually leads to plenty people just straight out
disabling it. For lots of workloads there's never a valid reason to use
a mergejoin (and often the planner will never choose one). Secondly, the
planner has better information about estimating the memory usage for the
to-be-sorted data than it has about the size of the transition
values. And lastly, there's a difference between a long existing cause
for bad IO behaviour and one that's suddenly kicks in after a major
version upgrade, to which there's no escape hatch (it's rarely realistic
to disable hash aggs, in contrast to merge joins).
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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