Re: Describing Postgres as "object-relational" on the home page

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
To: "Karl O(dot) Pinc" <kop(at)karlpinc(dot)com>, "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Benjamin Scherrey <scherrey(at)proteus-tech(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, Vik Fearing <vik(at)postgresfriends(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: Describing Postgres as "object-relational" on the home page
Date: 2024-01-01 22:58:47
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On 1/1/24 11:44, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:40:49 -0500
> "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:

>> I don't really follow what you're suggesting here.
>
> The suggestion here is to first, change the "object-relational" sentence
> as has been discussed. (Then, tl,dr; use a interactive "word cloud")
> But instead of coming up with wording describing functionality,
> workloads, etc., to simply say "PostgrSQL does lots more stuff." on
> the home page and link that to a page with nothing but keywords.
> The keywords can be linked to descriptions or project pages,
> or not.
>
> That way nobody has to write sentences, and more importantly, nobody
> has to maintain much when there's a new hot technology or
> figure out what's important enough to put on the home page. Just add
> a new keyword to the keywords page. (Especially labor free if
> the keyword page is a pg wiki page.)
>
> To extend this idea, just a list of keywords is not engaging.
> Categorizing the keywords by attaching one or more tags to each opens
> up possibilities for interaction and alternate ways to view the
> keywords. In particular the user can find keywords by tag and so
> keywords need not be categorized in a fixed fashion.
> This would likely only be interesting if the keywords were linked to
> somewhere so that after getting a relevant set of keywords
> the reader could follow the links to find information or tools.

Please no, this is just another version of word salad.

>
> In addition to tabular views, the https://pgxn.org sort of view,
> a "word cloud", provides a useful overview. In this presentation all
> tags are displayed on a single page but the visual presentation
> emphasizes those tags that are more important (e.g., occur
> with more frequency) by displaying them in a larger font.
> In this view, clicking on any tag shows its associated keywords
> to facilitate exploration.
> (From an implementation perspective it might be simplest if each
> keyword was also a tag, so that there's no need to make a distinction
> between tags and keywords when searching.)

I actually find that visually distracting and more to the point not that
useful. When I go to a site I am looking for something that will scratch
my itch, not what is popular. A search box and a table of contents
generally is all I need.

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Adrian Klaver
adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com

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