| From: | Fabien COELHO <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr> | 
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| To: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> | 
| Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, fn ln <emuser20140816(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> | 
| Subject: | Re: BUG #15977: Inconsistent behavior in chained transactions | 
| Date: | 2019-09-07 06:54:42 | 
| Message-ID: | alpine.DEB.2.21.1909070833570.15836@lancre | 
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Hello,
>> I do think the fact that COMMIT in multi-statement implicit transaction
>> has some usecase, is an argument for just implementing it properly...
>
> Like Peter, I would also keep an ERROR for now, as we could always
> relax that later on.
I can agree with both warning and error, but for me the choice should be 
consistent with the current behavior of COMMIT and ROLLBACK in the same 
context.
  pg> CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE warn(msg TEXT) LANGUAGE plpgsql AS
      $$ BEGIN RAISE WARNING 'warning: %', msg ; END ; $$;
Then an out-of-transaction multi-statement commit:
  pg> CALL warn('1') \; COMMIT \; CALL warn('2') ;
    WARNING:  warning: 1
    WARNING:  there is no transaction in progress
    WARNING:  warning: 2
    CALL
But v4 creates an non uniform behavior that I find surprising and 
unwelcome:
  pg> CALL warn('1') \; COMMIT AND CHAIN \; CALL warn('2') ;
    WARNING:  warning: 1
    ERROR:  COMMIT AND CHAIN can only be used in transaction blocks
Why "commit" & "commit and chain" should behave differently in the same 
context? For me they can error or warn, but consistency implies that they 
should do the exact same thing.
From a user perspective, I really want to know if a commit did not do what 
I thought, and I'm certainly NOT expecting the stuff I sent to go on as if 
nothing happened. Basically I agree with everybody that raising an error 
is the right behavior in this case, which suggest that out-of-transaction 
commit and rollback should error.
So my opinion is that commit & rollback issued out-of-transaction should 
also generate an error.
If it is too much a change and potential regression, then I think that the 
"and chain" variants should be consistent and just raise warnings.
-- 
Fabien.
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