From: | Wolfgang Walther <walther(at)technowledgy(dot)de> |
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To: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Add ON CONFLICT DO RETURN clause |
Date: | 2022-09-26 06:33:28 |
Message-ID: | ae9ac11b-18ee-7a0e-cbb3-6b868077e376@technowledgy.de |
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Peter Geoghegan:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM Wolfgang Walther
> <walther(at)technowledgy(dot)de> wrote:
>> The attached patch adds a DO RETURN clause to be able to do this:
>>
>> INSERT INTO x (id) VALUES (1)
>> ON CONFLICT DO RETURN
>> RETURNING created_at;
>>
>> Much simpler. This will either insert or do nothing - but in both cases
>> return a row.
>
> How can you tell which it was, though?
I guess I can't reliably. But isn't that the same in the ON UPDATE case?
In the use cases I had so far, I didn't need to know.
> I don't see why this statement should ever perform steps for any row
> that are equivalent to DO NOTHING processing -- it should at least
> lock each and every affected row, if only to conclusively determine
> that there really must be a conflict.
>
> In general ON CONFLICT DO UPDATE allows the user to add a WHERE clause
> to back out of updating a row based on an arbitrary predicate. DO
> NOTHING has no such WHERE clause. So DO NOTHING quite literally does
> nothing for any rows that had conflicts, unlike DO UPDATE, which will
> at the very least lock the row (with or without an explicit WHERE
> clause).
>
> The READ COMMITTED behavior for DO NOTHING is a bit iffy, even
> compared to DO UPDATE, but the advantages in bulk loading scenarios
> can be decisive. Or at least they were before we had MERGE.
Agreed - it needs to lock the row. I don't think I fully understood what
"nothing" in DO NOTHING extended to.
I guess I want DO RETURN to behave more like a DO SELECT, so with the
same semantics as selecting the row?
Best
Wolfgang
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