Re: Pg 16: will pg_dump & pg_restore be faster?

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Subject: Re: Pg 16: will pg_dump & pg_restore be faster?
Date: 2023-05-31 02:11:38
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On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 02:05:10PM +1200, David Rowley wrote:
> On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 13:13, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> > There is no mention of concurrency being a requirement. Is it wrong? I
> > think there was a question of whether you had to add _multiple_ blocks
> > ot get a benefit, not if concurrency was needed. This email about the
> > release notes didn't mention the concurrent requirement:
>
> My understanding had been that concurrency was required, but I see the
> commit message for 00d1e02be mentions:
>
> > Even single threaded
> > COPY is measurably faster, primarily due to not dirtying pages while
> > extending, if supported by the operating system (see commit 4d330a61bb1).
>
> If that's the case then maybe the beta release notes could be edited
> slightly to reflect this. Maybe something like:
>
> "Relation extensions have been improved allowing faster bulk loading
> of data using COPY. These improvements are more significant when
> multiple processes are concurrently loading data into the same table."

The release notes don't normally get into details on the magnitude of
the improvement in various circumstances.

> The current text of "PostgreSQL 16 can also improve the performance of
> concurrent bulk loading of data using COPY up to 300%." does lead me
> to believe that nothing has been done to improve things when only a
> single backend is involved.

Yes, agreed.

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