Re: Large expressions in indexes can't be stored (non-TOASTable)

From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: Alexander Lakhin <exclusion(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Large expressions in indexes can't be stored (non-TOASTable)
Date: 2024-11-27 15:59:18
Message-ID: Z0dB1ld2iPcS6nC9@nathan
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 03:20:19PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 01:29:31PM -0600, Nathan Bossart wrote:
>> Or we could just enforce that you have an active snapshot whenever you
>> modify a catalog with a TOAST table. That's simpler, but it requires extra
>> work in some paths (and probably comments to point out that we're only
>> pushing an active snapshot to satisfy an assertion).
>
> I may be wrong, but I suspect that enforcing the check without being
> column-based is the right way to go and that this is going to catch
> more errors in the long-term than being a maintenance burden. So I
> would keep the snapshot check even if it's a bit aggressive, still
> it's useful. And we are not talking about that may code paths that
> need to be switched to require a snapshot, as well. Most of the ones
> you have mentioned on this thread are really particular in the ways
> they do transaction handling. I suspect that it may also catch
> out-of-core issues with extensions doing direct catalog manipulations.

That is useful feedback, thanks.

One other thing that caught my eye is that replorigin_create() uses
SnapshotDirty, so I'm unsure if
PushActiveSnapshot(GetTransactionSnapshot()) is correct there. The only
other example I found is RelationFindReplTupleByIndex(), which uses
GetLatestSnapshot(). But I do see that CreateSubscription() calls
replorigin_create(), and it seems to rely on the transaction snapshot, so
maybe it's okay, at least for the purpose of TOAST table access... I'm
finding myself wishing there was a bit more commentary about the proper
usage of these snapshot functions. Maybe I can try to add some as a
follow-up exercise.

--
nathan

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