Re: SQL/JSON features for v15

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 12:26:29PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> someone else to make the decision. But that's not how it works. The
> RMT concept was invented precisely to solve problems like this one,
> where the patch authors don't really want to revert it but other
> people think it's pretty busted. If such problems were best addressed
> by waiting for a long time to see whether anything changes, we
> wouldn't need an RMT. That's exactly how we used to handle these kinds
> of problems, and it sucked.

I saw the RMT/Jonathan stated August 28 as the cut-off date for a
decision, which was later changed to September 1:

> The RMT is still inclined to revert, but will give folks until Sep 1 0:00
> AoE[1] to reach consensus on if SQL/JSON can be included in v15. This matches
> up to Andrew's availability timeline for a revert, and gives enough time to
> get through the buildfarm prior to the Beta 4 release[2].

I guess you are saying that setting a cut-off was a bad idea, or that
the cut-off was too close to the final release date. For me, I think
there were three questions:

1. Were subtransactions acceptable, consensus no
2. Could trapping errors work for PG 15, consensus no
3. Could the feature be trimmed back for PG 15 to avoid these, consensus ?

I don't think our community works well when there are three issues in
play at once.

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