| From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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| To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Amit Langote <amitlangote09(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nikita Glukhov <n(dot)gluhov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, John Naylor <john(dot)naylor(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: SQL/JSON features for v15 |
| Date: | 2022-08-31 18:45:58 |
| Message-ID: | 35146.1661971558@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
> I guess you are saying that setting a cut-off was a bad idea, or that
> the cut-off was too close to the final release date. For me, I think
> there were three questions:
> 1. Were subtransactions acceptable, consensus no
> 2. Could trapping errors work for PG 15, consensus no
> 3. Could the feature be trimmed back for PG 15 to avoid these, consensus ?
We could probably have accomplished #3 if there was more time,
but we're out of time. (I'm not entirely convinced that spending
effort towards #3 was productive anyway, given that we're now thinking
about a much differently-scoped patch with API changes.)
> I don't think our community works well when there are three issues in
> play at once.
To the extent that there was a management failure here, it was that
we didn't press for a resolution sooner. Given the scale of the
concerns raised in June, I kind of agree with Andres' opinion that
fixing them post-freeze was doomed to failure. It was definitely
doomed once we reached August with no real work done towards it.
regards, tom lane
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