From: | Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca> |
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To: | Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> |
Cc: | Valeria Kaplan <kaplan(dot)valeria(at)gmail(dot)com>, Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>, Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification |
Date: | 2023-06-02 14:35:17 |
Message-ID: | YT2PR01MB98272BD07BF3CE2F16169689E84EA@YT2PR01MB9827.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM |
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Hi Guillaume,
That's interesting - the PostgreSQL training/testing that Dalibo is offering is in French?
I wonder if we could work out an agreement with Dalibo and build on the training that you have already developed, rather than re-inventing the wheel, so to speak. That way we're kind of building the unified or standardized English and French training/testing at the same time ('unified' or 'standardized' sounds better to me than 'community developed').
Just some thoughts :)
Sincerely,
Katie
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From: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
Sent: 02 June 2023 10:06
To: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca>
Cc: Valeria Kaplan <kaplan(dot)valeria(at)gmail(dot)com>; Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>; Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification
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Hi,
Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 15:13, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca<mailto:kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca>> a écrit :
Hello all,
Not sure about this idea, but possibly a better one than having a single company (ex. Red Hat and EDB come to mind) run the show for certifications/competency rating. I like it from this respect.
There are other companies doing PostgreSQL certification. SRA in Japan, and Dalibo in France (disclaimer: I work for Dalibo) offer certification exams for their customers.
I will love the idea if you are able to, somehow, offer the training/testing in languages other than English. PostgreSQL is an international open source project and English-only training/testing is not very appropriate. This gives a huge advantage to the community's native English speakers (the goal here is to produce something 'unbiased' I thought).
Perhaps develop it in English, with input from those from non-English speaking countries on your working group, and then have it translated into multiple languages (also: be careful how you prioritize these, but if you have, say, a member from India on your working group, perhaps Hindi becomes one of the first).
Multiple languages would be a must, I totally agree. Dalibo did its own certification because the community didn't seem to be able to work on a unified one, despite many tries. I'd love to see a unified Postgres certification, and we (Dalibo) would gladly work on this project, but I also am kinda skeptical of the outcome.
Regards.
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Guillaume.
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