Re: backhanded compliment from Larry Ellison

From: Jason Hihn <jhihn(at)paytimepayroll(dot)com>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: backhanded compliment from Larry Ellison
Date: 2002-11-21 13:57:36
Message-ID: NGBBLHANMLKMHPDGJGAPAECACAAA.jhihn@paytimepayroll.com
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Could the Samba software/people help with that? It seems that they should
have a generic library that all apps should be able to link to. If not, I
think it'd be a good idea...
(Great, yet another RPM dependency...)

-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-advocacy-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
[mailto:pgsql-advocacy-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]On Behalf Of Magnus Hagander
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:33 AM
To: Josh Berkus; Robert Treat; pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] backhanded compliment from Larry Ellison

> There are still some respects where we trail MS SQL Server:
> 1) slower performance on massive data updates
> 2) point-in-time recovery
> 3) in-database replication tools
> 4) GUI DBA tools (i.e. tools to manage configuration params,
> backup, process management)
> 5) automated version upgrade/patching

I'd like to add one more line to that list, which is definitly holding
us back from using it in a few situations:
6) Integrated Windows login.

Meaning once you're on the domain, you have your permissions in the
database server. I know we're all supposed to use web based applications
and do our security there and just log in with a fixed account in the
database, but in reality a huge amount of applications are still just
client<->RDBMS. And not requiring every user to remember *yet another*
password is a huge selling point for MS SQL.
Might work with Kerberos in some way - haven't tried that since we're
still on NT4 on the clients. NTLM is the one that works across different
windows versions...

//Magnus

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