Re: pgadmin4 for fedora 35

From: toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: richard coleman <rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "pgadmin-support lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgadmin4 for fedora 35
Date: 2021-11-13 15:48:12
Message-ID: CAP14JfvhoUEfjvqP8HgBu3JCPWiyo0M-ZHoV8X8FjOXWoaVz+g@mail.gmail.com
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Lo and behold, I just upgraded a laptop to f35 with pgadmin4 still
installed and it was enough to install python9 to get a running
desktop version. So when upgrading don't rm pgadmin, disable the
pgadmin repo and afterwards install python9. Not sure if that will
work for the web version.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:35, richard coleman
<rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Good to know,
>
> thanks,
> rik.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 8:43 AM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:41 PM richard coleman <rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Have you ever considered using something like flatpak ( https://flatpak.org/ ) for the Linux versions of pgAdmin? It might; make it easier to handle the many different distributions, and deal with the different release schedules of the many dependencies that pgAdmin relies upon.
>>
>>
>> Technologies like Flatpak make it significantly harder to maintain applications like pgAdmin, and for system administrators to ensure their systems are secure. This is primarily because they bundle third party libraries within the application package, which means that every time there is a security update to a library such as OpenSSL, we need to update the package we distribute, and the system administrator can't simply do a yum update or equivalent and be sure that their system is as secure as possible. It also means end users need to install a separate package management tool from the one that is native to their system.
>>
>> So, whilst (if we had the resources) I wouldn't object to supporting Flatpak and similar, I would certainly not want them to replace the standard native packages as the primary offering.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>> rik.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:23 AM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 8:11 AM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> fwiw That didn't work out. Symlinks where pointing to 3.9 though I
>>>>> stopped at Failed to exec Python script file
>>>>> '/usr/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.wsgi'... ModuleNotFoundError: No module
>>>>> named 'flask'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :-(.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I've to practice some patience.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, unfortunately. The issue is that one of the upstream libraries we use doesn't have a release that supports Python 3.10 yet. We have all the build system etc. setup and ready to go, but until they put out a new release we're kinda stuck.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 10:01, toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ok, then I give that a try, thx!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 09:56, Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 8:34 AM Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:28 PM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> No easy way to fallback to python 3.9 in f35? 3.9 is installable fwiw
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I'm not aware of any. @Dave do you have any ?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > The F34 packages might work if you have 3.9 installed (I *think* the symlinks in our venv should still point to the correct locations in that case). There may be other things that don't work though.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 06:17, Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>> > >>> <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > Hi Toni,
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > All of the python packages used by pgAdmin are not yet available for 3.10. We're continuously testing pgAdmin on v3.10 to make it work.
>>>>> > >>> > Once pgAdmin works on v3.10, F35 builds can be made available.
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 6:35 PM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>> > >>> >> No yum repos for f35 yet. Using the 34 repos has troubles with f35
>>>>> > >>> >> python3.10. Any fast solution for this? Is installing python3.9 an
>>>>> > >>> >> option. I'm not familiar with this pyhton world but became dependend
>>>>> > >>> >> on pgadmin4.
>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>> > >>> >> thx
>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > --
>>>>> > >>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > >>> > Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>> > >>> > pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
>>>>> > >>> > "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> --
>>>>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>> > >> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>> > >> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
>>>>> > >> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --
>>>>> > > Dave Page
>>>>> > > VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>>>>> > > Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>>>>> > > Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>>>> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>
>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>
>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com

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