Re: pgadmin4 for fedora 35

From: richard coleman <rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>, Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "pgadmin-support lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgadmin4 for fedora 35
Date: 2021-11-09 16:35:46
Message-ID: CAGA3vBsH4Sm1_KdUEFpg-OnJJuLCyeObrRNKB_8MKANU2Y66Mg@mail.gmail.com
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Dave,

Good to know,

thanks,
rik.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 8:43 AM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:41 PM richard coleman <
> rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Have you ever considered using something like flatpak (
>> https://flatpak.org/ ) for the Linux versions of pgAdmin? It might;
>> make it easier to handle the many different distributions, and deal with
>> the different release schedules of the many dependencies that pgAdmin
>> relies upon.
>>
>
> Technologies like Flatpak make it significantly harder to maintain
> applications like pgAdmin, and for system administrators to ensure their
> systems are secure. This is primarily because they bundle third party
> libraries within the application package, which means that every time there
> is a security update to a library such as OpenSSL, we need to update the
> package we distribute, and the system administrator can't simply do a yum
> update or equivalent and be sure that their system is as secure as
> possible. It also means end users need to install a separate package
> management tool from the one that is native to their system.
>
> So, whilst (if we had the resources) I wouldn't object to supporting
> Flatpak and similar, I would certainly not want them to replace the
> standard native packages as the primary offering.
>
>
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> rik.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:23 AM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 8:11 AM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> fwiw That didn't work out. Symlinks where pointing to 3.9 though I
>>>> stopped at Failed to exec Python script file
>>>> '/usr/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.wsgi'... ModuleNotFoundError: No module
>>>> named 'flask'
>>>>
>>>
>>> :-(.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess I've to practice some patience.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, unfortunately. The issue is that one of the upstream libraries we
>>> use doesn't have a release that supports Python 3.10 yet. We have all the
>>> build system etc. setup and ready to go, but until they put out a new
>>> release we're kinda stuck.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 10:01, toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Ok, then I give that a try, thx!
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 09:56, Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 8:34 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:28 PM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> No easy way to fallback to python 3.9 in f35? 3.9 is installable
>>>> fwiw
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I'm not aware of any. @Dave do you have any ?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The F34 packages might work if you have 3.9 installed (I *think*
>>>> the symlinks in our venv should still point to the correct locations in
>>>> that case). There may be other things that don't work though.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 06:17, Aditya Toshniwal
>>>> > >>> <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > Hi Toni,
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > All of the python packages used by pgAdmin are not yet
>>>> available for 3.10. We're continuously testing pgAdmin on v3.10 to make it
>>>> work.
>>>> > >>> > Once pgAdmin works on v3.10, F35 builds can be made available.
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 6:35 PM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>> >>
>>>> > >>> >> No yum repos for f35 yet. Using the 34 repos has troubles with
>>>> f35
>>>> > >>> >> python3.10. Any fast solution for this? Is installing
>>>> python3.9 an
>>>> > >>> >> option. I'm not familiar with this pyhton world but became
>>>> dependend
>>>> > >>> >> on pgadmin4.
>>>> > >>> >>
>>>> > >>> >> thx
>>>> > >>> >>
>>>> > >>> >>
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > --
>>>> > >>> > Thanks,
>>>> > >>> > Aditya Toshniwal
>>>> > >>> > pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
>>>> > >>> > "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> --
>>>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> > >> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>> > >> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
>>>> > >> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Dave Page
>>>> > > VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>>>> > > Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>>>> > > Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>> > >
>>>> > > EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>>> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>
>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>

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