Re: Change License

From: Abraham Elmahrek <abe(at)cloudera(dot)com>
To: Federico Di Gregorio <fog(at)dndg(dot)it>
Cc: Daniele Varrazzo <daniele(dot)varrazzo(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tobias Oberstein <tobias(dot)oberstein(at)gmail(dot)com>, "psycopg(at)postgresql(dot)org" <psycopg(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Change License
Date: 2013-12-11 09:10:54
Message-ID: CAOvM-cjREfcTZNDLsDwWLwRn1VpGxRCJGD4qqyZhuc1umDD0_Q@mail.gmail.com
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I think the correct page to reference would have been
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html. Sorry about that...

My understanding is that the third-party licensing policy page is simply
guidelines for how to interpret ASLv2. The resolved page insists that LGPL
shouldn't be included in apache projects. I do think that extends to any
project with ASLv2 license since it seems like an interpretation of the
license itself.

LGPL is a great license. I can understand why LGPL was chosen for
postgresql and its various subprojects. It makes perfect sense to control
the rights of a project and guide users to contribute back to the original
code base. psycopg2 is, how ever, a client. It seems less likely that a
client would be forked than the postgresql code base itself. Also, making a
client packageable in every other project seems like a great goal,
irrespective of licensing.

Also, thanks for all the responses. It's great to see so much involvement
from the community. I definitely appreciate it!
-Abe

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Federico Di Gregorio <fog(at)dndg(dot)it> wrote:

> On 11/12/2013 03:47, Daniele Varrazzo wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Abraham Elmahrek <abe(at)cloudera(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >> > Hey Guys,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the speedy responses. I work on the Hue project at
> Cloudera. Hue
> >> > is an ASLv2 licensed project and according too
> >> > http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.htm LGPL is excluded from the
> list of
> >> > shippable licenses. The end goal is to be able to ship psycopg2 since
> it's a
> >> > complete client for postgresql that django fully supports.
> > Note: the correct url above is <http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html
> >.
> >
> > I didn't know the Apache Software Foundation was in open war with the
> > GPL. Well, too bad: it seems you chose the wrong license for your
> > software.
> >
> > We could be able to provide a personal, non-transferable license for
> > projects whose lawyers insist to require it; however your license
> > seems to forbid this option too.
> >
> > I'm afraid the chance to see psycopg released with a non-LGPL license
> > are quite low.
>
> I'd say they are 0. :)
>
> federico
>
> --
> Federico Di Gregorio federico(dot)digregorio(at)dndg(dot)it
> Di Nunzio & Di Gregorio srl http://dndg.it
> Non vi sono certezze, solo opportunità. -- V
>

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