Re: Change License

From: Tobias Oberstein <tobias(dot)oberstein(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Abraham Elmahrek <abe(at)cloudera(dot)com>, Federico Di Gregorio <fog(at)dndg(dot)it>
Cc: Daniele Varrazzo <daniele(dot)varrazzo(at)gmail(dot)com>, "psycopg(at)postgresql(dot)org" <psycopg(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Change License
Date: 2013-12-11 09:48:55
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Am 11.12.2013 10:10, schrieb Abraham Elmahrek:
> I think the correct page to reference would have been
> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html. Sorry about that...
>
> My understanding is that the third-party licensing policy page is simply
> guidelines for how to interpret ASLv2. The resolved page insists that
> LGPL shouldn't be included in apache projects. I do think that extends
> to any project with ASLv2 license since it seems like an interpretation
> of the license itself.

If that were true, other (large/significant) projects would have a
problem: E.g. JBoss is licensed under LGPL 2.1 and uses various Apache
2.0 code inside (various things from Apache Commons and other for
logging etc).

https://community.jboss.org/thread/147636

http://www.tldrlegal.com/compare?a=Apache+License+2.0+%28Apache-2.0%29&b=GNU+Lesser+General+Public+License+v2.1+%28LGPL-2.1%29

/Tobias

>
> LGPL is a great license. I can understand why LGPL was chosen for
> postgresql and its various subprojects. It makes perfect sense to
> control the rights of a project and guide users to contribute back to
> the original code base. psycopg2 is, how ever, a client. It seems less
> likely that a client would be forked than the postgresql code base
> itself. Also, making a client packageable in every other project seems
> like a great goal, irrespective of licensing.
>
> Also, thanks for all the responses. It's great to see so much
> involvement from the community. I definitely appreciate it!
> -Abe
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Federico Di Gregorio <fog(at)dndg(dot)it
> <mailto:fog(at)dndg(dot)it>> wrote:
>
> On 11/12/2013 03:47, Daniele Varrazzo wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Abraham Elmahrek
> <abe(at)cloudera(dot)com <mailto:abe(at)cloudera(dot)com>> wrote:
> >> > Hey Guys,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the speedy responses. I work on the Hue project at
> Cloudera. Hue
> >> > is an ASLv2 licensed project and according too
> >> > http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.htm LGPL is excluded from
> the list of
> >> > shippable licenses. The end goal is to be able to ship
> psycopg2 since it's a
> >> > complete client for postgresql that django fully supports.
> > Note: the correct url above is
> <http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html>.
> >
> > I didn't know the Apache Software Foundation was in open war with the
> > GPL. Well, too bad: it seems you chose the wrong license for your
> > software.
> >
> > We could be able to provide a personal, non-transferable license for
> > projects whose lawyers insist to require it; however your license
> > seems to forbid this option too.
> >
> > I'm afraid the chance to see psycopg released with a non-LGPL license
> > are quite low.
>
> I'd say they are 0. :)
>
> federico
>
> --
> Federico Di Gregorio federico(dot)digregorio(at)dndg(dot)it
> <mailto:federico(dot)digregorio(at)dndg(dot)it>
> Di Nunzio & Di Gregorio srl http://dndg.it
> Non vi sono certezze, solo opportunità.
> -- V
>
>

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