From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0 |
Date: | 2016-04-29 18:36:54 |
Message-ID: | CANP8+jKByAbEWWEZdBkFQQmiettncjpG71WEkgppjqE_QrxW=w@mail.gmail.com |
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On 29 April 2016 at 18:40, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:
> On 04/29/2016 08:44 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:07:04PM +0300, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>>
>>> Our roadmap http://www.postgresql.org/developer/roadmap/ is the
>>> problem. We
>>> don't have clear roadmap and that's why we cannot plan future feature
>>> full
>>> release. There are several postgres-centric companies, which have most of
>>> developers, who do all major contributions. All these companies has their
>>> roadmaps, but not the community.
>>>
>>
>> I would be concerned if company roadmaps overtly affected the community
>> roadmap. In general, I find company roadmaps to be very short-sighted
>> and quickly changed based on the demands of specific users/customers ---
>> something we don't want to imitate.
>>
>> We do want company roadmaps to affect the community roadmap, but in a
>> healthy, long-term way, and I think, in general, that is happening.
>>
>>
> The roadmap is not the problem it is the lack of cooperation. Many
> companies are now developing features in a silo and then presenting them to
> the community. Instead we should be working with those companies to have
> them develop transparently so others can be a part of the process.
>
> If the feature is going to be submitted to core anyway (or open source)
> why wouldn't we just do that? Why wouldn't EDB develop directly within the
> Pg infrastructure. Why wouldn't we build teams around the best and
> brightest between EDB, 2Q and Citus?
>
> Egos.
>
> Consider PgLogical, who is working on this outside of 2Q?
Thank you for volunteering to assist. What would you like to work on?
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