Re: Dropping training events

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Dropping training events
Date: 2018-12-07 09:41:40
Message-ID: CANP8+jJsRRQ+pWfssU7Oex6RqXw016W32BsLsDe7TCC=gepHJQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 13:18, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:

> On 2018-11-08 01:50, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> > On 11/7/18 9:36 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> I'd like to propose that we drop the ability to register training
> >> events
> >> on the www.postgresql.org <http://www.postgresql.org> site.
> >>
> >> Reasons:
> >>
> >> 1. It's basically a system set up to game, where it helps to flood
> >> with
> >> a lot of instances and then cancel them (often without actually
> >> removing
> >> the registration on the website, and our moderators certainly don't
> >> have
> >> the time to go double-check which instances are actually happening
> >> etc)
> >
> > Yeah, I think this is the crux of it: there are some people who are
> > using the system fairly for promoting GA trainings with high-quality
> > content that do happen. And then there is the above, which
> > unfortunately
> > is not just speculation but has been confirmed in multiple instances.
>
> Would it be feasible to still have the training events, but blacklist
> (in
> an effective way) the abusers?
>
> Just from the point of view of rewarding those people who do create good
> value training + use the system fairly, and not punishing them because
> some
> places are abusing things.
>

Somewhat surprised to not see a reply to Justin's reasonable comment.

Why would we not just block everyone who acts unreasonably? Just as we do
in other cases.

Will we remove Hackers next because people post spam to it? That would save
moderator time also. But obviously not a serious suggestion.

Blocking all training helps those who do NOT provide scheduled training, so
the people who provide scheduled training have now been penalised for no
reason.

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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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