Re: Explain details popover changes proposal

From: Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
Cc: Ashesh Vashi <ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Explain details popover changes proposal
Date: 2021-01-11 05:24:12
Message-ID: CAM9w-_m_w5Luz4SGUsgNjPbXmaOpOYvDACtor02fKGJENL1=ag@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Dave,

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 9:04 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:38 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 4:30 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:46 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 2:53 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 9:17 AM Ashesh Vashi <
>>>>> ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 14:43, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:36 AM Ashesh Vashi <
>>>>>>> ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 12:37 PM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>>>>>>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Hackers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm working on https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/5488 and as
>>>>>>>>> per the discussion, we'll remove the current tooltip way for showing the
>>>>>>>>> details. Instead, we'll add some popover/panel upon clicking a node
>>>>>>>>> which will stay until closed.
>>>>>>>>> Below is the screenshot of partial implementation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like the idea of showing details in the pop up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, though I think the presentation could use some work to make
>>>>>>> the table-like layout a little cleaner (maybe alternating row shading or
>>>>>>> subtle cell borders or something). Perhaps check with Aradhana or Chethana
>>>>>>> for ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also need to think about the details in the SVG file downloaded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We ignore the popups entirely at the moment don't we? It would be
>>>>>>> good to render any that are open though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have put details in the title attribute, hence - it should be
>>>>>> visible as cluttered text on hover. (Assumption - I have not tried).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, well it seems reasonable to continue to do that for all nodes.
>>>>> However, maybe we should also render any popups that are open at time of
>>>>> download - that way, printing or converting to a raster format will still
>>>>> display those popups.
>>>>>
>>>> With the new changes, the SVG tooltip will be removed completely. The
>>>> new pop up is HTML based and floats above the diagram. I mean, if you zoom
>>>> in/out the plan, it does not affect the popup.
>>>> I'm thinking to append all the tables to the download SVG and add click
>>>> events on the nodes which will scroll to that table. This is just a
>>>> thought, not sure if it will work. But that would be a separate task.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We certainly shouldn't remove functionality that works now, without
>>> replacing it with something at least as good.
>>>
>>
>>> I think this is relatively low priority though - can't we just fix the
>>> basic problem, or is that caused by the SVG tooltips, whose location is out
>>> of our control?
>>>
>> Currently toolips appear only on hover, and if they are large then there
>> is no way to see them completely. In the past, there have been attempts to
>> fix it but still it causes issues. Correcting my previous comment, it's a
>> html tooltip and not a SVG tooltip.
>> With the new changes, multiple issues are fixed together - tooltip will
>> not go out of screen, user can see full details, UX improved.
>>
>
> Sure, the main UI would definitely be improved. I just want to make sure
> we don't negatively impact the download version.
>
The download version will be as before. No change.

>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> — Ashesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Ashesh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please confirm if I can proceed with full implementation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-01-08 at 12.31.06 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>>>>>> pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
>>>>>>>>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>>>>>>>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashesh Vashi
>>>>>> EnterpriseDB INDIA: Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>> <http://www.enterprisedb.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *http://www.linkedin.com/in/asheshvashi*
>>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/asheshvashi>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>
>>>>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>> pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
>>>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>
>>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Aditya Toshniwal
>> pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>
>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>
>

--
Thanks,
Aditya Toshniwal
pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
<http://edbpostgres.com>
"Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"

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