Re: Explain details popover changes proposal

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Ashesh Vashi <ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Explain details popover changes proposal
Date: 2021-01-08 15:34:31
Message-ID: CA+OCxozL_p5ubJYDW8oN4ah9kkWyc1gQfQJX4Q3M3Gp1EPBCCQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:38 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 4:30 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:46 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 2:53 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 9:17 AM Ashesh Vashi <
>>>> ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 14:43, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:36 AM Ashesh Vashi <
>>>>>> ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 12:37 PM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>>>>>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Hackers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm working on https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/5488 and as
>>>>>>>> per the discussion, we'll remove the current tooltip way for showing the
>>>>>>>> details. Instead, we'll add some popover/panel upon clicking a node
>>>>>>>> which will stay until closed.
>>>>>>>> Below is the screenshot of partial implementation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the idea of showing details in the pop up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, though I think the presentation could use some work to make
>>>>>> the table-like layout a little cleaner (maybe alternating row shading or
>>>>>> subtle cell borders or something). Perhaps check with Aradhana or Chethana
>>>>>> for ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also need to think about the details in the SVG file downloaded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We ignore the popups entirely at the moment don't we? It would be
>>>>>> good to render any that are open though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have put details in the title attribute, hence - it should be
>>>>> visible as cluttered text on hover. (Assumption - I have not tried).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, well it seems reasonable to continue to do that for all nodes.
>>>> However, maybe we should also render any popups that are open at time of
>>>> download - that way, printing or converting to a raster format will still
>>>> display those popups.
>>>>
>>> With the new changes, the SVG tooltip will be removed completely. The
>>> new pop up is HTML based and floats above the diagram. I mean, if you zoom
>>> in/out the plan, it does not affect the popup.
>>> I'm thinking to append all the tables to the download SVG and add click
>>> events on the nodes which will scroll to that table. This is just a
>>> thought, not sure if it will work. But that would be a separate task.
>>>
>>
>> We certainly shouldn't remove functionality that works now, without
>> replacing it with something at least as good.
>>
>
>> I think this is relatively low priority though - can't we just fix the
>> basic problem, or is that caused by the SVG tooltips, whose location is out
>> of our control?
>>
> Currently toolips appear only on hover, and if they are large then there
> is no way to see them completely. In the past, there have been attempts to
> fix it but still it causes issues. Correcting my previous comment, it's a
> html tooltip and not a SVG tooltip.
> With the new changes, multiple issues are fixed together - tooltip will
> not go out of screen, user can see full details, UX improved.
>

Sure, the main UI would definitely be improved. I just want to make sure we
don't negatively impact the download version.

>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> — Ashesh
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Ashesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please confirm if I can proceed with full implementation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-01-08 at 12.31.06 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>>>>> pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
>>>>>>>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>>>>>>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashesh Vashi
>>>>> EnterpriseDB INDIA: Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>> <http://www.enterprisedb.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://www.linkedin.com/in/asheshvashi*
>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/asheshvashi>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>
>>>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>> pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
>>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>
>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Aditya Toshniwal
> pgAdmin hacker | Sr. Software Engineer | *edbpostgres.com*
> <http://edbpostgres.com>
> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>

--
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