Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."

From: Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."
Date: 2023-03-31 13:02:54
Message-ID: CAM9w-_=Sb8+7gggFbehZi_6dq7wh-xc6nHWws3748qHFxB+fjg@mail.gmail.com
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Hi,

On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:22 PM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 11:07, Aditya Toshniwal <
> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave/Hackers,
>>
>> After thinking more about it, I now have a different proposal. We should
>> club all object related stuff under a single tab.
>> Basically, we can have one tab say - Object Info and under that tab we
>> will have sub tabs/layout - Summary, SQL, Statistics, Dependents and
>> Dependencies. Users can re-shuffle the tabs layout under the Object Info
>> tab as per choice. The advantage of this would be less cluttered tabs, more
>> space for other tabs and all object related tabs under one umbrella.
>>
>> To Summarise, the default tabs would be - Dashboard, Object Info,
>> Processes, <more tools as opened>...
>>
>
> Well that won't happen for 7.0...
>
> I'm not entirely against the idea, but it's one of those things that I
> think I'd want to see before committing to. I can envisage what it would
> look like, but not how it would feel to use.
>
Then I should probably revert the "Edit Object..." back to "Properties..."
as before until decide on something.

>
>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:24 PM Aditya Toshniwal <
>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 3:59 PM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 11:11, Aditya Toshniwal <
>>>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hackers,
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the users had raised a concern regarding confusing "Properties"
>>>>> label - one on the tab (read only) and another one on context(to edit) -
>>>>> https://github.com/pgadmin-org/pgadmin4/issues/4734. We are using the
>>>>> label "Edit the object" on the Edit button of the properties tab already.
>>>>> So I suggest we should rename the context "Properties..." to "Edit
>>>>> Object..."
>>>>> for consistency as well as to make it more meaningful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree. "Properties" is the standard name for that type of dialogue
>>>> throughout Windows and many/most Linux windowing systems (e.g. Gnome). On
>>>> macOS, the equivalent is "Get Info". I don't think we should deviate from
>>>> a few decades of use of that name based on a single ticket (if anything,
>>>> maybe we should make it say "Get Info" when the UI is displayed on a mac).
>>>>
>>>> Dave's point in his bug report is mostly that we also use the term
>>>> "Properties" for the panel in the main UI in which we display some
>>>> properties (but not all, and sometimes extra, over what is in the
>>>> dialogue). I would not object to renaming that panel to "Object Summary" or
>>>> similar, to correspond with "Object Explorer".
>>>>
>>>> Which then leads to another thought - we've used one-word naming in the
>>>> past for tabs. We now have "Object Explorer", and I just suggested "Object
>>>> Summary" - but those imply we should also have "Object Dependencies",
>>>> "Object Dependents", and "Object SQL", which I definitely do not like.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe everything should have a one word label?
>>>>
>>> I am fine with renaming the tab instead of the context menu. We can
>>> rename the "Properties" tab to just "Summary"/"Info" and everything works
>>> as before. We don't need to add "Object" to tabs.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>>>> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>
>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | *edbpostgres.com*
>>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Aditya Toshniwal
>> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | *edbpostgres.com*
>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>
>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>

--
Thanks,
Aditya Toshniwal
pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | *edbpostgres.com*
<http://edbpostgres.com>
"Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"

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