Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."

From: Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."
Date: 2023-03-31 12:52:39
Message-ID: CA+OCxowygsRETA3qTJUncyvpRJZd8786PGATf0t5onnTrj0Mog@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 11:07, Aditya Toshniwal <
aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:

> Hi Dave/Hackers,
>
> After thinking more about it, I now have a different proposal. We should
> club all object related stuff under a single tab.
> Basically, we can have one tab say - Object Info and under that tab we
> will have sub tabs/layout - Summary, SQL, Statistics, Dependents and
> Dependencies. Users can re-shuffle the tabs layout under the Object Info
> tab as per choice. The advantage of this would be less cluttered tabs, more
> space for other tabs and all object related tabs under one umbrella.
>
> To Summarise, the default tabs would be - Dashboard, Object Info,
> Processes, <more tools as opened>...
>

Well that won't happen for 7.0...

I'm not entirely against the idea, but it's one of those things that I
think I'd want to see before committing to. I can envisage what it would
look like, but not how it would feel to use.

>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:24 PM Aditya Toshniwal <
> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 3:59 PM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 11:11, Aditya Toshniwal <
>>> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hackers,
>>>>
>>>> One of the users had raised a concern regarding confusing "Properties"
>>>> label - one on the tab (read only) and another one on context(to edit) -
>>>> https://github.com/pgadmin-org/pgadmin4/issues/4734. We are using the
>>>> label "Edit the object" on the Edit button of the properties tab already.
>>>> So I suggest we should rename the context "Properties..." to "Edit
>>>> Object..."
>>>> for consistency as well as to make it more meaningful.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree. "Properties" is the standard name for that type of dialogue
>>> throughout Windows and many/most Linux windowing systems (e.g. Gnome). On
>>> macOS, the equivalent is "Get Info". I don't think we should deviate from
>>> a few decades of use of that name based on a single ticket (if anything,
>>> maybe we should make it say "Get Info" when the UI is displayed on a mac).
>>>
>>> Dave's point in his bug report is mostly that we also use the term
>>> "Properties" for the panel in the main UI in which we display some
>>> properties (but not all, and sometimes extra, over what is in the
>>> dialogue). I would not object to renaming that panel to "Object Summary" or
>>> similar, to correspond with "Object Explorer".
>>>
>>> Which then leads to another thought - we've used one-word naming in the
>>> past for tabs. We now have "Object Explorer", and I just suggested "Object
>>> Summary" - but those imply we should also have "Object Dependencies",
>>> "Object Dependents", and "Object SQL", which I definitely do not like.
>>>
>>> So maybe everything should have a one word label?
>>>
>> I am fine with renaming the tab instead of the context menu. We can
>> rename the "Properties" tab to just "Summary"/"Info" and everything works
>> as before. We don't need to add "Object" to tabs.
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
>>> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>
>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Aditya Toshniwal
>> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | *edbpostgres.com*
>> <http://edbpostgres.com>
>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Aditya Toshniwal
> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | *edbpostgres.com*
> <http://edbpostgres.com>
> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>

--
Dave Page
VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
Twitter: @pgsnake

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