Re: [PoC] pg_upgrade: allow to upgrade publisher node

From: Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: [PoC] pg_upgrade: allow to upgrade publisher node
Date: 2023-09-28 08:52:21
Message-ID: CALj2ACW_46ZH5W=Rw8Vm7jf5E7yZduBhT=K_nE=cdmKgbbe1Ew@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 9:40 AM Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 01:50:28PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > We have discussed this point. Normally, we don't have such options in
> > upgrade, so we were hesitent to add a new one for this but there is a
> > discussion to add an --exclude-logical-slots option. We are planning
> > to add that as a separate patch after getting some more consensus on
> > it. Right now, the idea is to get the main patch ready.
>
> Okay. I am wondering if the subscriber part is OK now without an
> option, but that could also be considered separately, as well. At
> least I hope so.

+1 for an option to skip upgrade logical replication slots for the
following reasons:
- one may not want the logical replication slots on the upgraded
instance immediately - unless the upgraded instance is tested and
determined to be performant.
- one may not want the logical replication slots on the upgraded
instance immediately - no logical replication setup is wanted on the
new instance perhaps because of an architectural/organizational
decision.
- one may take backup of the postgres instance with logical
replication slots using any of the file system/snapshot based backup
mechanisms (not pg_basebackup), essentially getting the on-disk
replication slots data as well; the pg_upgrade may fail on the
backed-up instance.

I agree to have it as a 0002 patch once the design and things are
finalized for the main patch.

--
Bharath Rupireddy
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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