From: | "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Daniel Verite <daniel(at)manitou-mail(dot)org>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeremy Schneider <schneider(at)ardentperf(dot)com>, LaurenzAlbe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> |
Subject: | Re: [18] Policy on IMMUTABLE functions and Unicode updates |
Date: | 2024-07-16 20:27:28 |
Message-ID: | CAKFQuwa715Lvio0Kw1uM6ySyEZDTvOE_Jiyp4OKvwpdPrwWhaA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 1:16 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com> writes:
> > So you are proposing we add STATIC to VOLATILE/STABLE/IMMUTABLE (in the
> > third position before IMMUTABLE), give it IMMUTABLE semantics, mark
> > builtin functions that deserve it, and document with suitable caution
> > statements?
>
> What is the point of that, exactly?
>
> I'll agree that the user documentation could use some improvement
> in how it describes the volatility levels, but I do not see how
> it will reduce anybody's confusion to invent multiple aliases for
> what's effectively the same volatility level. Nor do I see a
> use-case for actually having multiple versions of "immutable".
> Once you've decided you can put something into an index, quibbling
> over just how immutable it is doesn't really change anything.
>
>
I'd teach pg_upgrade to inspect the post-upgraded catalog of is-use
dependencies and report on any of these it finds and remind the DBA that
this latent issue may exist in their system.
I agree the core behaviors of the system would remain unchanged and both
modes would be handled identically. Though requiring superuser or a
predefined role membership to actually use a "static" mode function in an
index or generated expression would be an interesting option to consider.
David J.
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