| From: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Adrien Nayrat <adrien(dot)nayrat(at)anayrat(dot)info>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Vik Fearing <vik(dot)fearing(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, David Rowley <david(dot)rowley(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: random() (was Re: New GUC to sample log queries) |
| Date: | 2018-12-26 19:56:04 |
| Message-ID: | CAH2-WznB-bx=AYpkWiRps1yy6QQaV8N=JWQSQvJM+fG4UZi4Og@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:46 AM Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
> > There might well be debugging value in affecting internal PRNG usages,
> > but let's please not think it's a good idea that that's trivially
> > reachable from SQL.
>
> I hesitate to say that there is much value beyond the value that I've
> found in this one instance. Maybe the remaining cases where this
> technique could be applied just aren't very interesting.
Actually, it looks like there may be several cases that are quite
similar to the "getting tired" case that I took an interest in. You
have spgdoinsert(), gistchoose(), and gin_rand()/dropItem(), just for
starters -- those all seem to affect the final structure of an index.
I'm beginning to think that the technique that I came up with to make
"getting tired" deterministic ought to be supporting as a debugging
option if we're to do away with internal use of the generic/seedable
backend PRNG.
--
Peter Geoghegan
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