From: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
Cc: | Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alexander Lakhin <exclusion(at)gmail(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-bugs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: BUG #17255: Server crashes in index_delete_sort_cmp() due to race condition with vacuum |
Date: | 2021-11-11 03:33:01 |
Message-ID: | CAH2-Wz=cLQBJEYOD=c8HBwx9+s2X38Y6nhd=WGRFtUHS8fQwWg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:16 PM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> I don't really think it's a good idea to move it to earlier. If anything I
> would want to move it later (and eventually occasionally re-compute it, that'd
> be a *huge* win for longrunning vacuums).
I agree that it would be a huge win, especially when we want to set
the VM after heap vacuuming, during the second heap pass. But...
> We can't really do the same with the
> hard horizons. It's currently super likely that the horizon moves forward a
> lot between vacuum_set_xid_limits() and GlobalVisTestFor(), but moving it
> closer still is going in the wrong direction.
...why is that super likely? I have to admit that I have no idea what
you mean by that.
> So I'm inclined to add a comment saying that we need to do the
> GlobalVisTestFor(), pointing to the comment in ComputeXidHorizons(), and
> adding a TODO that we should find a heuristic when to recompute horizons?
Okay. Even still, I suggest that you say something about this new
DELETE_IN_PROGRESS pruning behavior in vacuumlazy.c. Maybe in
lazy_scan_prune()?
> > We could probably *also* freeze tuples opportunistically (e.g., freeze
> > a few tuples on a page early to be able to mark it all-frozen sooner),
>
> We should definitely do that when a page is already being dirtied for other
> reasons.
Agreed. But at the very least we should be thinking about the
whole-page picture. If we made freezing a whole page cheap enough
(smaller WAL records), then maybe the separate all-visible state
becomes totally unnecessary (except for pg_upgrade).
--
Peter Geoghegan
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