From: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Binary search in ScalarArrayOpExpr for OR'd constant arrays |
Date: | 2020-04-28 17:39:32 |
Message-ID: | CAFj8pRAsroMRKBguyeehMe_GqzSPBAXbdBZhdG3=ZF0SFGBU+Q@mail.gmail.com |
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út 28. 4. 2020 v 18:17 odesílatel James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com> napsal:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:18 AM Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > út 28. 4. 2020 v 16:48 odesílatel Tomas Vondra <
> tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> napsal:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:43:43PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> >> >út 28. 4. 2020 v 15:26 odesílatel Tomas Vondra <
> tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> >> >napsal:
> >> >
> >> >> ...
> >> >>
> >> >> >I'm not so concerned about this in any query where we have a real
> FROM
> >> >> >clause because even if we end up with only one row, the relative
> >> >> >penalty is low, and the potential gain is very high. But simple
> >> >> >expressions in pl/pgsql, for example, are a case where we can know
> for
> >> >> >certain (correct me if I've wrong on this) that we'll only execute
> the
> >> >> >expression once, which means there's probably always a penalty for
> >> >> >choosing the implementation with setup costs over the default linear
> >> >> >scan through the array.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you mean by "simple expressions"? I'm not plpgsql expert and
> I
> >> >> see it mostly as a way to glue together SQL queries, but yeah - if we
> >> >> know a given ScalarArrayOpExpr will only be executed once, then we
> can
> >> >> disable this optimization for now.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >a := a + 1
> >> >
> >> >is translated to
> >> >
> >> >SELECT $1 + 1 and save result to var a
> >> >
> >> >The queries like this "SELECT $1 + 1" are simple expressions. They are
> >> >evaluated just on executor level - it skip SPI
> >> >
> >> >the simple expression has not FROM clause, and have to return just one
> row.
> >> >I am not sure if it is required, it has to return just one column.
>
> Yes, this is what I meant by simple expressions.
>
> >> >I am not sure if executor knows so expression is executed as simply
> >> >expressions. But probably it can be deduced from context
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not sure. The executor state is created by exec_eval_simple_expr, which
> >> calls ExecInitExprWithParams (and it's the only caller). And that in
> >> turn is the only place that leaves (state->parent == NULL). So maybe
> >> that's a way to identify simple (standalone) expressions? Otherwise we
> >> might add a new EEO_FLAG_* to identify these expressions explicitly.
>
> I'll look into doing one of these.
>
> >> I wonder if it would be possible to identify cases when the expression
> >> is executed in a loop, e.g. like this:
> >>
> >> FOR i IN 1..1000 LOOP
> >> x := y IN (1, 2, ..., 999);
> >> END LOOP;
> >>
> >> in which case we only build the ScalarArrayOpExpr once, so maybe we
> >> could keep the hash table for all executions. But maybe that's not
> >> possible or maybe it's pointless for other reasons. It sure looks a bit
> >> like trying to build a query engine from FOR loop.
> >
> >
> > Theoretically it is possible, not now. But I don't think so it is
> necessary. I cannot to remember this pattern in any plpgsql code and I
> never seen any request on this feature.
> >
> > I don't think so this is task for plpgsql engine. Maybe for JIT
> sometimes.
>
> Agreed. I'd thought about this kind of scenario when I brought this
> up, but I think solving it would the responsibility of the pg/pgsql
> compiler rather than the expression evaluation code, because it'd have
> to recognize the situation and setup a shared expression evaluation
> context to be reused each time through the loop.
>
can be nice if new implementation was not slower then older in all
environments and context (including plpgsql expressions)
Regards
Pavel
> James
>
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