Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15

From: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Sergey Shinderuk <s(dot)shinderuk(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com, er(at)xs4all(dot)nl, joel(at)compiler(dot)org, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15
Date: 2024-05-23 19:46:31
Message-ID: CAFj8pRAZW_iwXC0J0zdbqPXs_s4QqrkN9OF0d8gAM-CeCjyDyA@mail.gmail.com
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Hi

st 22. 5. 2024 v 16:14 odesílatel Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>
napsal:

> > On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 02:37:49PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > On 18.05.24 13:29, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > > I want to note that when we discussed this patch series at the dev
> > > meeting in FOSDEM, a sort-of conclusion was reached that we didn't want
> > > schema variables at all because of the fact that creating a variable
> > > would potentially change the meaning of queries by shadowing table
> > > columns. But this turns out to be incorrect: it's_variables_ that are
> > > shadowed by table columns, not the other way around.
> >
> > But that's still bad, because seemingly unrelated schema changes can make
> > variables appear and disappear. For example, if you have
> >
> > SELECT a, b FROM table1
> >
> > and then you drop column b, maybe the above query continues to work
> because
> > there is also a variable b. Or maybe it now does different things
> because b
> > is of a different type. This all has the potential to be very confusing.
>
> Yeah, that's a bummer. Interestingly enough, the db2 implementation of
> global session variables mechanism is mentioned as similar to what we
> have in the patch. But weirdly, the db2 documentation just states
> possibility of a resolution conflict for unqualified names, nothing
> else.
>

I found document https://www.ibm.com/docs/it/i/7.3?topic=variables-global

If I understand well, then the same rules are applied for qualified or not
qualified identifiers (when there is a conflict), and the variables have
low priority.

The db2 has the possibility to compile objects, and it can block the usage
variables created after compilation - (if I understand well the described
behaviour).

Regards

Pavel

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