Re: Impact of checkpointer during pg_upgrade

From: Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Hou, Zhijie/侯 志杰 <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Impact of checkpointer during pg_upgrade
Date: 2023-09-05 07:00:54
Message-ID: CAFiTN-tgW=YwnCTLdreGAgeFTvVn2ByNJcvf-AhEO6kk9=Mv0A@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 10:55 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > Earlier I was thinking that ERRORing out is better so that the user
> > can take necessary action for the invalidated slots and then retry
> > upgrade. But thinking again I could not find what are the advantages
> > of this because if we error out then also users need to restart the
> > old cluster again and have to drop the corresponding subscriptions
> > OTOH if we allow the upgrade by ignoring the slots then also the user
> > has to take similar actions on the new cluster? So what's the
> > advantage of erroring out over upgrading?
> >
>
> The advantage is that we avoid inconvenience caused to users because
> Drop Subscription will be unsuccessful as the corresponding slots are
> not present. So users first need to disassociate slots for the
> subscription and then drop the subscription.

Yeah that's a valid argument for erroring out.

Also, I am not sure
> leaving behind some slots doesn't have any other impact, otherwise,
> why don't we drop such slots from time to time after they are marked
> invalidated during normal operation?

Okay, I am also not sure of that.

If users really want to leave
> behind such invalidated slots after upgrade, we can even think of
> providing some option like "exclude_invalid_logical_slots".

+1

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Regards,
Dilip Kumar
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com

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