Re: Local User Groups

From: Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Valeria Kaplan <vk(at)dataegret(dot)com>
Cc: Umair Shahid <umair(dot)shahid(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, usergroups(at)postgresql(dot)org, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Paul Ramsey <pramsey(at)cleverelephant(dot)ca>, Kerem Kızıltunç <kerem(dot)kiziltunc(at)turkcell(dot)com(dot)tr>, Renee Phillips <renee(dot)phillips(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jan Karremans <jan(dot)karremans(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)gmail(dot)com>, Laetitia Avrot <laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Teresa(dot)Giacomini" <Teresa(dot)Giacomini(at)microsoft(dot)com>, Ervin Weber <webervin(at)gmail(dot)com>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Stacey Haysler <shayslerpgx(at)gmail(dot)com>, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046(at)uottawa(dot)ca>, Sebastiaan Mannem <sebastiaan(dot)mannem(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Claire Giordano <Claire(dot)Giordano(at)microsoft(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Catherine Souque <catherine(dot)souque(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Steven Pousty <steve(dot)pousty(at)crunchydata(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Local User Groups
Date: 2020-01-07 11:34:27
Message-ID: CADK3HH+pGmk6PVMnO0iwJNMXjgBBL6a03NXWt9gn9a2v=MiuWw@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria Kaplan <vk(at)dataegret(dot)com> wrote:

> Sounds good,
>
> Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how.
> <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual> " to this
> page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/
>
> Quick question,
> Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have access
> to edit there. Do you know who can help with that?
>
> thanks,
> Valeria
>
>
Joe or Magnus can help with that. I think there is a link on the wiki to
specifically ask for it but hopefully one of them sees this

Dave Cramer

> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Shahid <umair(dot)shahid(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <vk(at)dataegret(dot)com
>>> > <mailto:vk(at)dataegret(dot)com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Umair,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>>> > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>>> > the main website?
>>> >
>>> > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>>> > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at
>>> least
>>> > provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we
>>> would
>>> > like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>>> > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>>> > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look
>>> for
>>> > information like that on the main website.).
>>> >
>>> > All,
>>> > what do you think?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
>>> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
>>> > some vague notion of how to search for it.
>>> >
>>> > +1 for the main page
>>>
>>> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
>>> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
>>> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.
>>>
>>> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
>>> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
>>> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
>>> modify a Wiki page than the website.
>>>
>>> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
>>> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
>>> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.
>>>
>>
>> I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's
>> how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would
>> do the trick.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>

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