Re: Skipping logical replication transactions on subscriber side

From: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422(at)gmail(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Alexey Lesovsky <lesovsky(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Skipping logical replication transactions on subscriber side
Date: 2021-12-16 05:06:34
Message-ID: CAD21AoB7U3DorHAJEezTqKL_70KJOWr2rO75eMMNUMbE4OsJSA@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 11:43 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:19 PM Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:10 PM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:19 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:35 PM Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 3:23 PM vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While the worker is skipping one of the skip transactions specified by
> > > > > > the user and immediately if the user specifies another skip
> > > > > > transaction while the skipping of the transaction is in progress this
> > > > > > new value will be reset by the worker while clearing the skip xid. I
> > > > > > felt once the worker has identified the skip xid and is about to skip
> > > > > > the xid, the worker can acquire a lock to prevent concurrency issues:
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a good point.
> > > > > If only the last_error_xid could be skipped, then this wouldn't be an
> > > > > issue, right?
> > > > > If a different xid to skip is specified while the worker is currently
> > > > > skipping a transaction, should that even be allowed?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We don't expect such usage but yes, it could happen and seems not
> > > > good. I thought we can acquire Share lock on pg_subscription during
> > > > the skip but not sure it's a good idea. It would be better if we can
> > > > find a way to allow users to specify only XID that has failed.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, but as we don't have a definite way to allow specifying only
> > > failed XID, I think it is better to use share lock on that particular
> > > subscription. We are already using it for add/update rel state (see,
> > > AddSubscriptionRelState, UpdateSubscriptionRelState), so this will be
> > > another place to use a similar technique.
> >
> > Yes, but it seems to mean that we disallow users to change skip_xid
> > while the apply worker is skipping changes so we will end up having
> > the same problem we discussed so far;
> >
>
> I thought we just want to lock before clearing the skip_xid something
> like take the lock, check if the skip_xid in the catalog is the same
> as we have skipped, if it is the same then clear it, otherwise, leave
> it as it is. How will that disallow users to change skip_xid when we
> are skipping changes?

Oh I thought we wanted to keep holding the lock while skipping changes
(changing skip_xid requires acquiring the lock).

So if skip_xid is already changed, the apply worker would do
replorigin_advance() with WAL logging, instead of committing the
catalog change?

Regards,

--
Masahiko Sawada
EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com/

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