Re: Отв.: Re: UUID v7

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 5:59 AM Sergey Prokhorenko
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> Sergey Prokhorenko sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au
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> On Friday 29 November 2024 at 09:19:33 am GMT+3, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 8:13 PM Sergey Prokhorenko
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> <sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
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> > I mean to add not benchmark results to the patch, but functions so that everyone can compare themselves on their equipment. The comparison with UUIDv4 is not very interesting, as the choice is usually between UUIDv7 and an integer key. And I have described many use cases, and in your benchmark there is only one, the simplest.
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> I don't think we should add such benchmark functions at least to this
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> make sense to add it to pgbench as a built-in workload. Which however
> should be a separate patch. Having said that, I think users should use
> benchmarks that fit their workloads, and it would not be easy to
> establish workloads that are reasonable for most systems.
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> Masahiko Sawada
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> Workloads can and must be added with parameters. Typically, companies use test tables of 10,000 and 1,000,000 records, etc. Different companies have mostly similar usage scenarios (for example, incremental loading). Each company has to duplicate the work of others, creating the same benchmarks. The worst thing is that this is entrusted to incompetent employees who are not very good at understanding typical key usage scenarios. As a rule, these are programmers, not system analysts. Accordingly, the solution in 99% of cases will be in favor of integer keys, as they take up less space and are generated faster. If we leave this problem until the next patch, it will take us a year and a half. This is completely wrong.

There are still 4 months left until the feature freeze. We can discuss
this topic and might find solutions. I don't think it's a blocker of
this patch (UUIDv7 implementation patch).

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada
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