From: | Sergey Prokhorenko <sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> |
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To: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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Subject: | Re: Отв.: Re: UUID v7 |
Date: | 2024-11-29 13:57:30 |
Message-ID: | 486418627.3302149.1732888650720@mail.yahoo.com |
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Sergey Prokhorenko sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au
On Friday 29 November 2024 at 09:19:33 am GMT+3, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 8:13 PM Sergey Prokhorenko
<sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>
> I mean to add not benchmark results to the patch, but functions so that everyone can compare themselves on their equipment. The comparison with UUIDv4 is not very interesting, as the choice is usually between UUIDv7 and an integer key. And I have described many use cases, and in your benchmark there is only one, the simplest.
I don't think we should add such benchmark functions at least to this
patch. If there already is a well-established workload using UUIDv7
and UUIDv4 etc, users can use pgbench with custom scripts, or it might
make sense to add it to pgbench as a built-in workload. Which however
should be a separate patch. Having said that, I think users should use
benchmarks that fit their workloads, and it would not be easy to
establish workloads that are reasonable for most systems.
Regards,
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Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
Workloads can and must be added with parameters. Typically, companies use test tables of 10,000 and 1,000,000 records, etc. Different companies have mostly similar usage scenarios (for example, incremental loading). Each company has to duplicate the work of others, creating the same benchmarks. The worst thing is that this is entrusted to incompetent employees who are not very good at understanding typical key usage scenarios. As a rule, these are programmers, not system analysts. Accordingly, the solution in 99% of cases will be in favor of integer keys, as they take up less space and are generated faster. If we leave this problem until the next patch, it will take us a year and a half. This is completely wrong.
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