From: | Jerry Jelinek <jerry(dot)jelinek(at)joyent(dot)com> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: patch to allow disable of WAL recycling |
Date: | 2019-03-06 23:14:39 |
Message-ID: | CACPQ5FqkC3F9W6X5qnNH_bHBP5z9fpG8vxtZXVob1+h6NZHi=Q@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:02 AM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
wrote:
> On 2019-Mar-06, Robert Haas wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 12:13 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> wrote:
> > > I want your dictating software.
> >
> > I'm afraid this is just me and a keyboard, but sadly for me you're not
> > the first person to accuse me of producing giant walls of text.
>
> Well, I don't have a problem reading long texts; my problem is that I'm
> unable to argue as quickly.
>
> I do buy your argument, though (if reluctantly); in particular I was
> worried to offer a parameter (to turn off zero-filling of segments) that
> would enable dangerous behavior, but then I realized we also have
> fsync=off of which the same thing can be said. So I agree we should
> have two GUCs, properly explained, with a warning where appropriate.
>
> --
> Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
> PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
>
It sounds like everyone is in agreement that I should get rid of the
single COW GUC tunable and provide two different tunables instead. I will
update the patch to go back to the original name (wal_recycle) for the
original WAL recycling behavior. The default value of that will be true to
provide the existing behavior. This matches my original proposal from last
year. I will add a new tunable (wal_init_zero) which will control the
zero-fill behavior for the WAL file. Again, the default value will be true
and provide the existing behavior. Both of these could (should) be set to
false for a COW filesystem like ZFS.
If anyone objects to this new approach, let me know, otherwise I'll start
preparing an updated patch.
Thanks for all of the feedback,
Jerry
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