Re: [pgsql-www] Fix for PG History web page

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Fix for PG History web page
Date: 2016-01-01 14:47:16
Message-ID: CABUevEzJ2z6bGdt5YVhJzwEcCTpPf5Hx32cOO91Ky1yqwmLMyA@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <
stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> wrote:

> moving to -advocacy because I think it better belongs there from a
> discussion pov
>
> On 12/23/2015 05:50 AM, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us
> > <mailto:bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>> wrote:
> >
> > Our PG history web pages says talks about Postgres 8.0, which seems
> kind
> > of old at this point:
> >
> > http://www.postgresql.org/about/history/
> >
> > Today, PostgreSQL's user base is larger than ever and
> includes a
> > sizeable group of large corporations who use it in demanding
> > environments. Some of these companies such as Afilias and
> > Fujitsu have
> > made significant contributions to PostgreSQL's development.
> > And, true to
> > its roots, it continues to improve in both sophistication and
> > performance, now more than ever. Version 8.0 is PostgreSQL's
> > long
> > ---
> > awaited debut into the enterprise database market, bringing
> > features
> > such as tablespaces, Java stored procedures, point in time
> > recovery, and
> > nested transactions (savepoints). With it came a long
> > awaited feature
> > --- a native Windows port.
> >
> > Can someone update this? Can I submit a patch?
> >
> >
> > I always think, that our history page is very outdated and requires more
> > addition than you proposed. I have nothing against mentioning Afilias
> > and Fujtsu, but then why we didn't acknowledged other companies ? Also,
> > I think, better to discuss such things in -advocacy mailing list.
> >
> > btw, I think we missed great Elein posts
> >
> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20041203184254.F6767@cookie.varlena.com
>
> In light of the upcoming 9.5 release it would be awfully nice if
> somebody could work on updating /about:
>
> * The "History" page is very outdated and clearly needs some love
> * the "Awards" page is something we should imho remove completely
> (clearly awards are something people care less and less about given our
> maturity and seeing the most "recent" award on our website being from
> 2008 is imho actually very bad for our advocacy
> * The case studies are very outdated and in a fair amount of cases
> confusing - I think we should also remove them given nobody seem to have
> the time and enthusiasm to keep them at least somewhat current, same for
> the "featured users" list (most recent entry there seems to be from
> ~2006 and some places dont even exist any more)
>

These things are all on the TODO list of the folks who offered to work on
the website redesign. As I'm sure Bruce is very well aware, since was
present in the meeting that they did. However, per the result of that
discussion, *their* focus is to work on the design first and the content
later.

However, that of course doesn't prevent *others* from working on the actual
content. Patches are always welcome, and as those are all static pages they
shouldn't break any of the redesign work.

> So in summary my proposal is:
>
> 1. dropping the following subpages unless somebody has time to update
> them because I think in the current state they are really harmful:
> * "featured users"
> * "case studies"
> * "awards"
> 2. overhauling "History" and update it with what happened in the last 10
> years
> 3. Somebody (preferably the persons who maintain the entries) should
> audit "Quotes" whether they are still relevant and accurate
> 4. with less priority (but still) "Advantages" should be overhauled and
> updated
>
>
>
> comments? volunteers?
>

Definitely agree. Now if you can only find some volunteers to actually *do*
it...

--
Magnus Hagander
Me: http://www.hagander.net/
Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/

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