Re: [pgsql-www] Fix for PG History web page

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Fix for PG History web page
Date: 2016-01-01 17:41:49
Message-ID: 5686BA5D.80309@aklaver.com
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On 01/01/2016 06:47 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
> <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc <mailto:stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>> wrote:
>
> moving to -advocacy because I think it better belongs there from a
> discussion pov
>
> On 12/23/2015 05:50 AM, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us <mailto:bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
> > <mailto:bruce(at)momjian(dot)us <mailto:bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>>> wrote:
> >
> > Our PG history web pages says talks about Postgres 8.0, which
> seems kind
> > of old at this point:
> >
> > http://www.postgresql.org/about/history/
> >
> > Today, PostgreSQL's user base is larger than ever and
> includes a
> > sizeable group of large corporations who use it in
> demanding
> > environments. Some of these companies such as Afilias and
> > Fujitsu have
> > made significant contributions to PostgreSQL's
> development.
> > And, true to
> > its roots, it continues to improve in both
> sophistication and
> > performance, now more than ever. Version 8.0 is
> PostgreSQL's
> > long
> > ---
> > awaited debut into the enterprise database market,
> bringing
> > features
> > such as tablespaces, Java stored procedures, point in
> time
> > recovery, and
> > nested transactions (savepoints). With it came a long
> > awaited feature
> > --- a native Windows port.
> >
> > Can someone update this? Can I submit a patch?
> >
> >
> > I always think, that our history page is very outdated and
> requires more
> > addition than you proposed. I have nothing against mentioning Afilias
> > and Fujtsu, but then why we didn't acknowledged other companies ?
> Also,
> > I think, better to discuss such things in -advocacy mailing list.
> >
> > btw, I think we missed great Elein posts
> >
> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20041203184254.F6767@cookie.varlena.com
>
> In light of the upcoming 9.5 release it would be awfully nice if
> somebody could work on updating /about:
>
> * The "History" page is very outdated and clearly needs some love
> * the "Awards" page is something we should imho remove completely
> (clearly awards are something people care less and less about given our
> maturity and seeing the most "recent" award on our website being from
> 2008 is imho actually very bad for our advocacy
> * The case studies are very outdated and in a fair amount of cases
> confusing - I think we should also remove them given nobody seem to have
> the time and enthusiasm to keep them at least somewhat current, same for
> the "featured users" list (most recent entry there seems to be from
> ~2006 and some places dont even exist any more)
>
>
> These things are all on the TODO list of the folks who offered to work
> on the website redesign. As I'm sure Bruce is very well aware, since was
> present in the meeting that they did. However, per the result of that
> discussion, *their* focus is to work on the design first and the content
> later.
>
> However, that of course doesn't prevent *others* from working on the
> actual content. Patches are always welcome, and as those are all static
> pages they shouldn't break any of the redesign work.

Where is the entry point for doing patches?

Or is there some link that describes at least in outline form a
procedure for working on the Web site content?

>
>
>
> So in summary my proposal is:
>
> 1. dropping the following subpages unless somebody has time to update
> them because I think in the current state they are really harmful:
> * "featured users"
> * "case studies"
> * "awards"
> 2. overhauling "History" and update it with what happened in the last 10
> years
> 3. Somebody (preferably the persons who maintain the entries) should
> audit "Quotes" whether they are still relevant and accurate
> 4. with less priority (but still) "Advantages" should be overhauled and
> updated
>
>
>
> comments? volunteers?
>
>
> Definitely agree. Now if you can only find some volunteers to actually
> *do* it...
>
>
> --
> Magnus Hagander
> Me: http://www.hagander.net/
> Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/

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