Re: 9.6 -> 10.0

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Devrim Gündüz <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, pgsql-advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: 9.6 -> 10.0
Date: 2016-05-09 20:58:57
Message-ID: CABUevEyc8FZco6s=e=Tgx2Sn9hfi5va-=n-=G5J+BEPLc7Oigw@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:

> On 9 May 2016 at 22:27, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 May 2016 at 18:42, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3. pglogical will probably reach release quality before next year,
>>>>
>>>>> making this release the "hot upgrade" release.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think it's dangerous to bet on something like that. While I certainly
>>>> hope and think it will be, we certainly don't know.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We don't know Postgres 9.6 will be release quality either by Sept, but
>>> we are taking to steps to ensure it is.
>>>
>>> The question is whether others take an interest in doing the same thing
>>> for pglogical. I suggest that it is more about acceptance of the technology
>>> than it is about software quality, which is easy to measure. Perhaps that
>>> is just a matter of time.
>>>
>>>
>> I agree with that.
>>
>> It's hard enough to predict what will be release quality by Sept. We
>> should not base our marketing efforts on what we think will happen *another
>> year* in the future. We should push that marketing effort then, when we
>> have the product.
>>
>
> The product exists and has been released under the correct licence. When
> do you consider "when we have the product" occurs? Surely it is here and
> now that we have the product, so therefore the time is now to do marketing.
>
>
So this is probably just highlighting how I'm not up to date on the
-advocacy discussion :) But I thought the idea was to have it integrated,
and that *that* was "the product" in this case. As in the "breaker that
makes it possible to do transparent upgrades without external products".
Which I thought was the target for next release, not this release. But I
may be confusing multiple discussion, and as such contributing to the
confusion.

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Magnus Hagander
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