Re: Adding PGInstaller to the Downloads section

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> Hi
>

Thanks, Dave, for picking that one up. I had it on my list to deal with but
it somehow slipped out of my inbox.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Umair Shahid <umair(dot)shahid(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please find attached a patch to add PGInstaller to the Downloads section
>> of postgresql.org.
>>
>> PGInstaller offers an easy way to install PostgreSQL. We have found this
>> to be crucial to our customers who are used to GUI-based, click-n-point
>> installers on Windows and at times on macOS. PGInstaller has evolved from
>> 2UDA, a package that 2ndQuadrant has been working on for more than 3 years.
>>
>> 2ndQuadrant is committed to developing and actively maintaining
>> PGInstaller for PostgreSQL versions 9.5 and above. We have been releasing,
>> and will continue to release, updates in sync with the PostgreSQL
>> community, most recently announcing the minor release on 9-Aug. PGInstaller
>> has also kept up with the Beta releases for PostgreSQL 11.
>>
>
> The first issue that I can see (or more correctly, not see), is the source
> code. All packages on these pages need to be 100% Open Source, including
> the code required to build the packages themselves (but not necessarily the
> tools/compilers of course). Where can the code be found?
>

In fact, I'd like to take this opportunity to suggest another restructure.
(which I've been thinking about for a while, but this makes it more current)

I think for the distribution specific ones, we should really only keep the
community provided or recommended ones. That means on debian/ubuntu pages
we keep only apt.pg.org and "included in distro". For redhat/ubuntu we keep
only yum.pg.org and "included in distro". That goes for all the platforms
that we have clear recommendations on.

The other installers, including this new one from 2ndquadrant, gets moved
to "3rd party distributions" on https://www.postgresql.org/download/, which
may now possibly need a sub-page with all of them on. (Incidentally, this
is where 2UDA already is).

The remaining question then becomes Windows and Mac. My personal view is
keep the EDB installer on the Windows one, but consider keeping
postgres.app instead on Mac (along with references to things like homebrew)
as that seems to resonate with what people actually want on that platform.
But I'm not a Mac user myself, so somebody who is might have an argument
for keeping others there instead.

The idea ehind ghit is, of course, to simplify things for our users. Right
now we quite honestly provide more options than they need. It's good to
have those, but it's also good to have a very straight forward path for
those who don't have any non-standard needs. Each page can be given a
"there are also a number of third party options available, <click here> to
see them".

Finally; "PGInstaller" is the name used by the original Windows packaging
> that Magnus and I used to maintain (http://pgfoundry.org/projects
> /pginstaller/). I for one would appreciate it if you didn't use that
> name, but came up with something original.
>
>
+1. (And for the record, I still get mailman spam for pginstaller now and
then :P So while we may think it's dead, it's definitely playing zombie now
and then)

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