Re: Code of Conduct plan

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct plan
Date: 2018-09-14 14:19:02
Message-ID: CA+OCxoxhJQ9mAigJcD=GCaMYs9omfKLepLp-Ot6jWNUF++g9jQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
wrote:

> On 9/14/18 6:59 AM, Robert Eckhardt wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Adrian Klaver
>> <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/14/18 1:31 AM, Chris Travers wrote:
>>>
>>
>
>>>> I really have to object to this addition:
>>>> "This Code is meant to cover all interaction between community members,
>>>> whether or not it takes place within postgresql.org <
>>>> http://postgresql.org>
>>>> infrastructure, so long as there is not another Code of Conduct that
>>>> takes
>>>> precedence (such as a conference's Code of Conduct)."
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I second that objection. It is not in PGDG's remit to cure the world, for
>>> whatever form of cure you ascribe to. This is especially true as
>>> 'community
>>> member' has no strict definition.
>>>
>>
>> I understand the concern, however, if you look at how attacks happen
>> it is frequently through other sites. Specifically under/poorly
>> moderated sites. For specific examples, people who have issues with
>> people on Quora will frequently go after them on Facebook and Twitter.
>>
>> these aren't a solution looking for a problem. If we just want to look
>> at the clusterfuck that is happening in the reddis community right now
>> we can see conversations spilling onto twitter and into ad hominem
>> vitriol.
>>
>
> Ask yourself, if this was a government agency tracking your speech across
> platforms would you be as approving? Personally I find the whole thing
> creepy.

No one is tracking anything as part of the CoC. That's nothing but a straw
man argument.

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