Re: Stalled news about ora2pg 11 on pg.org

On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Alvaro Herrera
> <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:52:54PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2ndQuadrant has experienced significant delays in at least 3 cases
>>>>>> also. There is definitely a problem somewhere there.
>>>>>
>>>>> The delay is called "volunteer moderators who have day jobs".
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we should make all posts wait the same length of time, to
>>>>>> allow reasonable time to decide whether posts are suitable? 72 hours
>>>>>> seems like a reasonable time for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is going to do this strictly time-limited approving?
>>>>
>>>> So it auto-approves after 72 hours? I found this proposal vague.
>>>
>>> If anything automatic were to happen after 72 hours, the reasonable
>>> thing would be a rejection.
>>
>> ... but that's not more helpful than not doing anything, because then
>> the submitter needs to submit again. This creates a busy loop on which
>> submitter needs to watch status of his submitted news until it gets
>> approved.
>
> I agree. But it's the only thing we could do at all there.
>
>
>> I think the idea behind 72-hour auto-approve is that if it's obvious
>> spam someone will quickly reject it, and if it's not spam then it's not
>> worth rejecting. I don't think this is very palatable either.
>
> Given thta our moderators *clearly* don't have time to process it,
> this is almost *guarantee* to get spam postings onto our site. It
> won't work.
>
> I think recruiting more moderators, or somehow convincing our current
> ones to actually moderate more often is the only way to go.

If helping to alleviate some of the delay issues would be to have more moderators, I would be happy to volunteer my time.

Perhaps another initiative (though this is a tech suggestion) is to send a daily digest of news stories awaiting approval to the moderators so that way there is a constant reminder to review news items.

Jonathan