Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists?

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Andrew Sullivan <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists?
Date: 2007-11-01 16:16:01
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- --On Thursday, November 01, 2007 16:59:14 +0100 Magnus Hagander
<magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:

> No. All those cases are reasons for acceptable delays. But how often
> does say network connectivity go away for an hour? If they do, you need
> to better hosting provider.

You really don't have a clue on how an SMTP server works, do you? If delivery
fails, it backs up and tries again *later* ... if there is a high volume of
email going through said server, *later* could very well be 1 hour ... and, in
fact, its an incremental backup, so it actually works out to be something like:

Try now, fail, try in 5 minutes, fail, try in 10 minutes, fail, try in 20
minutes, fail, etc ... I'm not sure if its a simple '2x' algorithm, but the
delay between attempts does get progressively greater, so if it fails after
trying at '40 minutes', then it will be another hour and a half after *that*
beofre it will try again, etc ...

> A couple of minutes delay is perfectly acceptable. A couple of hours is
> an indication that something is wrong.

Well, when you see a couple of hours delay, then do something *useful* and let
me know ... the only *useful* reports I've had in the past 24 hours dealt with
a problem that Tom reported yesterday and that I fixed within minutes of him
reporting ... the headers that you and Bruce sent me were *from that problem*
...

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