Re: Updating Sourceforge

From: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jonathan(dot)katz(at)excoventures(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Updating Sourceforge
Date: 2013-04-11 19:36:35
Message-ID: A716F951-F96D-4BBD-8E9B-FF32F378F7A8@excoventures.com
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On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> On 11 April 2013 19:50, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>>>>> We again don't have anyone updating Sourceforge:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql/
>>>>>
>>>>> The posted version is 9.0. I again suggest we remove it.
>>>>
>>>> And I again second this suggestion.
>>>
>>> Thirded.
>>
>>
>> -1
>>
>> This is a form of advocacy for the project, just like listing anywhere else.
>
> Is it really? Does anybody care about sourceforge these days?
>
> And is it good advocacy if people go there and download old versions?
>
>> Putting correct and useful information out there is what we should be trying
>> to do more of, not less.
>>
>> I completely agree that you guys shouldn't do it, but that doesn't mean
>> nobody does it at all.
>
>
> We are clearly not capable of keeping the sourceforge records up to date.
>
> We've had multiple different people in charge of it, and it has
> *never* been updated on time more than once after a new person picks
> it up. In this case, it's clearly lacking by *years*.
>
> We do have the same issue at freshmeat, but at least there is no
> *code* uploaded there.
>
>
>> I'll arrange it, if you don't object.
>
> While I don't trust you any less than the previous people who have
> volunteered to maintain this and then failed one or two releases
> later, I personally think we've reached the point where we should just
> accept that we can't do it, and get rid of it. We can keep switching
> maintainers, but in the end, I don't think it's worth it.
>
> That's IMO, of course, others may vary.

While I do agree with Simon in that it is an avenue for increased visibility of the PG project, the track record of keeping the info up-to-date is poor - even looking at the older versions of files listed, the releases were not kept up to date.

With that said, if Sourceforge has some sort of API that we could plug into and just write a request to upload new releases for PG to, it may be worthwhile. But if we cannot automate it, I don't think it's worthwhile.

Jonathan

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